Hey man its cool. I think I took it too personally. Sorry. I thought your post was trying to say that 3D flying was stupid, annoying....whatever you want to call it. To answer your question, yes I can hover a heli nose in and inverted (on realflight anyway)...<G> I love precision flying almost as much as "flip-flopping" as some people call it. I just don't like it when people criticize other peoples flying styles because they can't or don't like to do it. Sorry again. Cya later