Fliton Extra 330 Mini
05-05-2006 | 02:36 PM
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RE: Fliton Extra 330 Mini
Wow, that sounds promising! I am thinking of getting a 3 cell 1500 mah pack to keep the weight down. The 3cell 2000mah pack are really expensive. I think that I will paralell my two 1000mah pack togther to try also. Thanks for the advise mnrcaerobat.
05-05-2006 | 02:54 PM
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RE: Fliton Extra 330 Mini
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Wow, that sounds promising! I am thinking of getting a 3 cell 1500 mah pack to keep the weight down. The 3cell 2000mah pack are really expensive. I think that I will paralell my two 1000mah pack togther to try also. Thanks for the advise mnrcaerobat.
Wow, that sounds promising! I am thinking of getting a 3 cell 1500 mah pack to keep the weight down. The 3cell 2000mah pack are really expensive. I think that I will paralell my two 1000mah pack togther to try also. Thanks for the advise mnrcaerobat.
05-14-2006 | 09:46 AM
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RE: Fliton Extra 330 Mini
I want to start by saying that I'm not usually a complainer. This is an awesome looking plane with construction quality that is rarely seen in the ARF world.
I waited almost 2 months from my local hobby shop for this thing to arrive. The instructions are neat looking but that is about it. No control throws listed. You are supposed to reinforce the landing gear with the carbon rod.....In 25 years of modeling I have never seen anything like that. There are 4 small pieces and 2 larger pieces of wood. The instructions say nothing about them. I am guessing that the 4 are to back up the control horns and the other 2 are to backup the wheel pants. ???? There are not enough screws to secure the cowl, canopy, LG and horns. There is a mount included in the kit for an OS .15LA. Again nothing in the instructions about this mount or using a glow engine at all. Would love to know more. Also there is concern about the metal on metal of the control horns with the rods. I have seen very small amounts of metal to metal cause big problems. I have left e-mail and even called Fliton on these issues and have not heard from them! You would think that a kit of this caliber would have better instructions and customer support.
And before you guys start on me about these minor things I want to say....... I understand nothing is perfect in the modeling world. I understand how everyone wants to modify things their way and some things not in the instructions are left up to the modeler. The instructions tell you to square up the tail with the wing.....well, no kidding! What about the throws? Fliton has a near perfect product with less than perfect support..... what a way to run a company......
I waited almost 2 months from my local hobby shop for this thing to arrive. The instructions are neat looking but that is about it. No control throws listed. You are supposed to reinforce the landing gear with the carbon rod.....In 25 years of modeling I have never seen anything like that. There are 4 small pieces and 2 larger pieces of wood. The instructions say nothing about them. I am guessing that the 4 are to back up the control horns and the other 2 are to backup the wheel pants. ???? There are not enough screws to secure the cowl, canopy, LG and horns. There is a mount included in the kit for an OS .15LA. Again nothing in the instructions about this mount or using a glow engine at all. Would love to know more. Also there is concern about the metal on metal of the control horns with the rods. I have seen very small amounts of metal to metal cause big problems. I have left e-mail and even called Fliton on these issues and have not heard from them! You would think that a kit of this caliber would have better instructions and customer support.
And before you guys start on me about these minor things I want to say....... I understand nothing is perfect in the modeling world. I understand how everyone wants to modify things their way and some things not in the instructions are left up to the modeler. The instructions tell you to square up the tail with the wing.....well, no kidding! What about the throws? Fliton has a near perfect product with less than perfect support..... what a way to run a company......
05-14-2006 | 10:45 AM
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RE: Fliton Extra 330 Mini
ORIGINAL: f14mech2005
I want to start by saying that I'm not usually a complainer. This is an awesome looking plane with construction quality that is rarely seen in the ARF world.
I waited almost 2 months from my local hobby shop for this thing to arrive. The instructions are neat looking but that is about it. No control throws listed. You are supposed to reinforce the landing gear with the carbon rod.....In 25 years of modeling I have never seen anything like that. There are 4 small pieces and 2 larger pieces of wood. The instructions say nothing about them. I am guessing that the 4 are to back up the control horns and the other 2 are to backup the wheel pants. ???? There are not enough screws to secure the cowl, canopy, LG and horns. There is a mount included in the kit for an OS .15LA. Again nothing in the instructions about this mount or using a glow engine at all. Would love to know more. Also there is concern about the metal on metal of the control horns with the rods. I have seen very small amounts of metal to metal cause big problems. I have left e-mail and even called Fliton on these issues and have not heard from them! You would think that a kit of this caliber would have better instructions and customer support.
And before you guys start on me about these minor things I want to say....... I understand nothing is perfect in the modeling world. I understand how everyone wants to modify things their way and some things not in the instructions are left up to the modeler. The instructions tell you to square up the tail with the wing.....well, no kidding! What about the throws? Fliton has a near perfect product with less than perfect support..... what a way to run a company......
I want to start by saying that I'm not usually a complainer. This is an awesome looking plane with construction quality that is rarely seen in the ARF world.
I waited almost 2 months from my local hobby shop for this thing to arrive. The instructions are neat looking but that is about it. No control throws listed. You are supposed to reinforce the landing gear with the carbon rod.....In 25 years of modeling I have never seen anything like that. There are 4 small pieces and 2 larger pieces of wood. The instructions say nothing about them. I am guessing that the 4 are to back up the control horns and the other 2 are to backup the wheel pants. ???? There are not enough screws to secure the cowl, canopy, LG and horns. There is a mount included in the kit for an OS .15LA. Again nothing in the instructions about this mount or using a glow engine at all. Would love to know more. Also there is concern about the metal on metal of the control horns with the rods. I have seen very small amounts of metal to metal cause big problems. I have left e-mail and even called Fliton on these issues and have not heard from them! You would think that a kit of this caliber would have better instructions and customer support.
And before you guys start on me about these minor things I want to say....... I understand nothing is perfect in the modeling world. I understand how everyone wants to modify things their way and some things not in the instructions are left up to the modeler. The instructions tell you to square up the tail with the wing.....well, no kidding! What about the throws? Fliton has a near perfect product with less than perfect support..... what a way to run a company......
05-17-2006 | 10:43 AM
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RE: Fliton Extra 330 Mini
I would use the Hacker A20-20L and Some Thunder Power PL 1320 3s packs.
Please see: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=499534 You'll be glad you did.
Steve
Please see: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=499534 You'll be glad you did.
Steve
05-17-2006 | 10:43 AM
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RE: Fliton Extra 330 Mini
Definately stay with a lighter setup to enjoy this model.
I went for an A30-28S and 2100 packs and the model flies really "heavy". Vertical is insane but all my other electric models feel light and floaty on the sticks. This doesn't!
A little disappointing I must say. Will switch to a Hacker A20 and some 1320 packs and see how we go then.
Rgds,
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I went for an A30-28S and 2100 packs and the model flies really "heavy". Vertical is insane but all my other electric models feel light and floaty on the sticks. This doesn't!
A little disappointing I must say. Will switch to a Hacker A20 and some 1320 packs and see how we go then.
Rgds,
Mark
05-17-2006 | 05:17 PM
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RE: Fliton Extra 330 Mini
Renosportflyer and others,
Thanks for the link!
Just flew it today for the first time. I eyeballed the throws and was only off a little with the ailerons. Just like you guys said...seems a little heavy with a 2100 ma. Still flew great. Its a sweet flying plane and looks awesome in the air. Made several landings...a few quite hard....no problems with the gear.
Thanks for the link!
Just flew it today for the first time. I eyeballed the throws and was only off a little with the ailerons. Just like you guys said...seems a little heavy with a 2100 ma. Still flew great. Its a sweet flying plane and looks awesome in the air. Made several landings...a few quite hard....no problems with the gear.
05-28-2006 | 02:03 AM
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RE: Fliton Extra 330 Mini
I've got some time now on my Mini-Edge 540 that I built with removeable wings. Flies very similar to the Mini-Extra. They really are a blast to fly. Enjoy!
http://media.putfile.com/Fliton-MIni-Edge-540-Video
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Greg
http://media.putfile.com/Fliton-MIni-Edge-540-Video
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05-29-2006 | 03:54 AM
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RE: Fliton Extra 330 Mini
Very nice....How many watts are you pulling? Sounds like you have both the Extra and the Edge, so between the two which flies better 3D? Been looking at these planes since my foamy needs replacement. I have been looking at getting a replacement foamy like a Copperhead Extra or an Airfoilz Yak. I have a Hacker A20-20l and x20 speed control, HS55's and Flight power 1800 lipo.
Thanks
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06-09-2006 | 12:35 AM
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RE: Fliton Extra 330 Mini
both planes fly about the same. Its been a while since I measure my watts so I've fogotton 
. But I did quite a bit of experimenting with the Hacker A20-22L A20-20L and the Axi 2212-26 and Axi2212-20 with a bunch of props 10x4.7 up to 12x6. I found the Axi2212-20 and APC11x5.5E give me the best performance for how i like to fly (as in the videos). The Rogue 3D biplane is another fun Fliton plane similary sized.
http://media.putfile.com/Fliton-Mini-Extra-Video
http://media.putfile.com/Fliton-MIni-Edge-540-Video
http://media.putfile.com/Fliton-Rogue-3D-Video
Enjoy!
Greg (gmilo)
Greg
. But I did quite a bit of experimenting with the Hacker A20-22L A20-20L and the Axi 2212-26 and Axi2212-20 with a bunch of props 10x4.7 up to 12x6. I found the Axi2212-20 and APC11x5.5E give me the best performance for how i like to fly (as in the videos). The Rogue 3D biplane is another fun Fliton plane similary sized.http://media.putfile.com/Fliton-Mini-Extra-Video
http://media.putfile.com/Fliton-MIni-Edge-540-Video
http://media.putfile.com/Fliton-Rogue-3D-Video
Enjoy!
Greg (gmilo)
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10-05-2006 | 12:57 PM
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RE: Fliton Extra 330 Mini
I agree totally with f14mech2005, the hardware (or lack of) and instructions for this plane sucks. This thing is billed as an arf, why is it there is not enough screws to at least match what is shown in the skimpy manual? And just what are we supposed to do we that CF rod? I will not say that I will never buy another kit from from this company, but it will be a lot lower on my list of potential suspects.
My eflite MF had several design/construction issues also, so no one is perfect, but at least instructions were clear and hardware present and at least appeared to be matched to the task at hand.
The rudder push rod apears too springy to me also (because of length?), I am thinking about adapting that CF rod for this or finding a heavier gage wire.
To gain adequte throw on the elevator, I notched a relief on the rudder horn side. Don't know yet if this will create any trim issues.
Planned maiden this weekend.
My eflite MF had several design/construction issues also, so no one is perfect, but at least instructions were clear and hardware present and at least appeared to be matched to the task at hand.
The rudder push rod apears too springy to me also (because of length?), I am thinking about adapting that CF rod for this or finding a heavier gage wire.
To gain adequte throw on the elevator, I notched a relief on the rudder horn side. Don't know yet if this will create any trim issues.
Planned maiden this weekend.
10-06-2006 | 02:19 PM
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RE: Fliton Extra 330 Mini
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I agree totally with f14mech2005, the hardware (or lack of) and instructions for this plane sucks. This thing is billed as an arf, why is it there is not enough screws to at least match what is shown in the skimpy manual? And just what are we supposed to do we that CF rod? I will not say that I will never buy another kit from from this company, but it will be a lot lower on my list of potential suspects.
My eflite MF had several design/construction issues also, so no one is perfect, but at least instructions were clear and hardware present and at least appeared to be matched to the task at hand.
The rudder push rod apears too springy to me also (because of length?), I am thinking about adapting that CF rod for this or finding a heavier gage wire.
To gain adequte throw on the elevator, I notched a relief on the rudder horn side. Don't know yet if this will create any trim issues.
Planned maiden this weekend.
I agree totally with f14mech2005, the hardware (or lack of) and instructions for this plane sucks. This thing is billed as an arf, why is it there is not enough screws to at least match what is shown in the skimpy manual? And just what are we supposed to do we that CF rod? I will not say that I will never buy another kit from from this company, but it will be a lot lower on my list of potential suspects.
My eflite MF had several design/construction issues also, so no one is perfect, but at least instructions were clear and hardware present and at least appeared to be matched to the task at hand.
The rudder push rod apears too springy to me also (because of length?), I am thinking about adapting that CF rod for this or finding a heavier gage wire.
To gain adequte throw on the elevator, I notched a relief on the rudder horn side. Don't know yet if this will create any trim issues.
Planned maiden this weekend.
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=499534
Happy flying, Steve
10-17-2006 | 01:08 PM
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RE: Fliton Extra 330 Mini
OK guys I have now flown this plane a couple of times would still give it a mixed rating. I am using a hacker 28s, TP 1320 batt and 10x5e? prop. CG is right at 90 mm from leading edge with batt just in front of wing spar. Had planned on using TP2100 but the spar location blocks moving the battery back any further to get proper CG. No complaints at all regarding flight performance. Definitely improved tracking and an overall lighter feel compared to my previous Efilte MF. Although still working to dial in throws to taste, no serious coupling issues have surfaced so far. I would highly reccomend reading the build thread in posted above due to lack of any sort of detail instructions and hardware. Just wish I had found that thread before my build. The wing spar is weak, one landing error, one broke spar just outside of fuse. Repaired and ready to roll again. No issues with landing gear yet.
10-25-2006 | 09:16 AM
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RE: Fliton Extra 330 Mini
I just get a fliton extra 330 and A20-20L with 30 Esc, can you give me any suggestions, also how easy is to land this bird compared to others in the market?
Thank you
Deniz
Thank you
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11-18-2006 | 07:31 PM
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RE: Fliton Extra 330 Mini
I lost mine today when the spar failed doing a snap roll [:@] I had beefed up the wing joint but I guess I was flying a lilltle too hard oh well . I really wish it had a stronger wing setup. I'm not gonna try to fix it as the spiral down from 50 or so feet broke way too much , and it would weigh quite a bit more after I repaired it .
Now what should I replace it with is the question
I had an eflite 480 1020kv and 40amp esc with 2100 hyperion lipo in it and had insane vertical and was obviously too much for the mini extra . She'd have lasted longer with some throttle control but I was just having so much fun I got way carried away and killed it.
I hate crashing ,but I love getting new planes
Now what should I replace it with is the question
I had an eflite 480 1020kv and 40amp esc with 2100 hyperion lipo in it and had insane vertical and was obviously too much for the mini extra . She'd have lasted longer with some throttle control but I was just having so much fun I got way carried away and killed it.
I hate crashing ,but I love getting new planes
11-19-2006 | 03:54 AM
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Oh, that's bad news. I can imagne you can break it, it's quite fragile.
I also fly one and already after the first landing, the landing gear broke out of the fuselage ..... I still have to repair it but have difficulties finding a suitable one.
I saw that you already installed another one. What kind of brand and where did you buy it ? How is it attached to the fuselage, could you show some pictures please ?
Last but not least, would you sell the landing gear ?
I also fly one and already after the first landing, the landing gear broke out of the fuselage ..... I still have to repair it but have difficulties finding a suitable one.
I saw that you already installed another one. What kind of brand and where did you buy it ? How is it attached to the fuselage, could you show some pictures please ?
Last but not least, would you sell the landing gear ?
11-19-2006 | 08:31 PM
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RE: Fliton Extra 330 Mini
here is a pic of the gear it is 2 1/4 inches wide where it mounts to the fuse with a 3 inch rise and is 7 1/2 inches wide at the bottom it still has the mounting block attached with the 440 blind nuts/screws so you can see how I had it in there.If you can get some 1 inch aluminum flat stock you could make it yourself. I plan on reuseing mine on my next small balsa electric plane that I WILL probably rip the gear out of [:@] beside it would cost way more than that gear is worth to send it to you 
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11-20-2006 | 02:54 PM
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RE: Fliton Extra 330 Mini
hi rob, sorry ot hear about the bird going down... you should get the inspire mini, which is their latest plane. i have your same setup with smaller packs on it and the plane is sweeet. it has removable wings too with the carbon tube spar, which has held up fine for 40+ flights.
