nerdc0re79

finished mine today! 480 eflite. 40a flite ESC . 4x hs55 servo. using my Parkzone trojan's RX and TX. what pro size should i use?? i have a couple of 10x7 apc electrics. should i use 12x7?

aflipz

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It would help if we knew which variant of the 480 you are using; there are two and they are very different.

Also, we can't recommend a prop unless you tell us what pack you are using.

nerdc0re79

480 1020kv eflite

aflipz

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Sigh... and the pack?

nerdc0re79

2100 3cell lipo 15c

aflipz

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Good, in that case you could use both props you have without much to fear but the best all around would probably be 12x6. 10x7 will be great for fast pattern, 12x7 will give you insane climbout and great speed, but i am pretty sure it will load up a bit more than your pack can take continuously so some management will be necessary. Mind you with that kind of power flying around at 60% throttle won't exactly feel like a compromise

skip1320

Any way to get this thing toFLAT flat spin, 31oz auw w/2100 and 11/5.5,just keep going back w/CG i guess!

tclaridge

I have not done a flat spin yet, but see my post #180 because the manual cg is very very forward for an aerobatic plane, and not good at all for 3D!

Jimmy Hoffa

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Mine flatspins like a top. Do you have full control surface throws?
Phillip

furn1593

maiden mine today - whew.... still in one piece. went bigger on the throws from the manual and still the low rates almost crashed this thing... need more than the high rates also.

furn1593

need some help here - my seagull 300ep wont seem to fly level, and looks out of trim - here is the current setup, climbs like a rocket at full power, needs up elevator inverted... what to adjust, thrust angle, CG, aileron adjustment (move both up or down)...??

skip1320

https://shop.graupner.de/webuerp/ser...RTN=9578&PIC=2 Buy your spare parts now from whoever sells them(horizon)hobby lobby will be selling new patty for 169.00 in the magazine add you can see the cross braces in the fuse to confirm same as seagull,this is graupner,always wanted a Patty accept they are 300S w/low wing,now i can have one for 169.00,still worth it,let me know what you guys think

aflipz

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Oh man, i loved this plane (as a seagul extra), it was great. So that, + the fact that you always wanted a Patty i see no shame in overpaying to get it as long as you can afford it and you know that you are consciously overpaying for a variation of a product that costs about 40% less.

I'd like one too, but i have so many planes already that i just can't justify it and i don't want it "169.99$" badly.


If i did though, what i would do is contact the only local hobby shop i know of that carries some graupner stuff and ask it if he can get it for me at a better price. He's in Canada but he ships worldwide. Send him an email, you have nothing to loose. http://www.icare-rc.com/index.htm

skip1320

http://www.jperkinsdistribution.co.u...20Seagull%20EP can only find overseas info on this one its new,why would they build a heavier version?

aflipz

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That is wierd, and they are recommending 2100 to 3200 3-4 cell lipos and 5 servos, and this motor : http://www.jperkinsdistribution.co.u...rs%20-%20EnErG

160 grams which is well over twice what it should weigh, but makes only 295 watts on a 3s pack with a 10x5 prop. I'm pretty sure given the chance i could make it fly nice (by hand picking my own gear for it)

skip1320

Yea,cant get US price,i guess someone here will have it soon,i like the blue just not the scheme,hopefully it will be as good as 300 ep,they have it on segull site to i gotta e mail someone,this is my first winter as R/C junkie,determined that winter is only good for research,didnt get to fly my 300 today,Beat!

nerdc0re79

hey got my second kit today. anybody has a good way of gluing the hinges on there? cuz my first one. during a blender, my elevator came off and this is only the first only 30 sec flight. so i dont want to make the same mistake.

nerdc0re79

should i use hinge tape instead of gluing it??? or glue it just like what the instructions say and then put hinge tape??






heres my first kit
eflite 480 BL
eflite 40A esc
hs 55 servo
ar6100 DSM2 reciever
DX7
3s 2100mah 15C apex li-po

aflipz

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Did you reinforce the elevator and horizontal stab? That is this plane's Achilles heal so to speak; feed it a lot of energy and it will fail. I am guessing there was nothing wrong with your hinge adhesive, but the elevator failed and the force of it flapping ripped the hinges out, just a guess...

I did read a nice trick for ca hinges though; fold the hinge many times at the middle to make it easy to deflect, then rub the line it creates with wax crayon to prevent ca from being absorbed on this section, then take a small drill bit and make small holes in each hinge slots to allow the ca to wick deep in there. remember; no kicker on the hinges.

GoldKraft

Good tip there. My dad, who has been in the hobby since the 60s, actually gave me a another tip for securing hinges. Once the hinge is in place per the instructions you drill a toothpick size hole thru the wing going thru the hinge...then simply put a toothpick thru the hole , trim it flush and a dab of thin CA . You can use a majic marker to color the toothpick/dowels to match the surface. He said he does this to all his planes and has never had a hinge pull out.

nerdc0re79

just glued them wings and took it for a spin.. man that thin CA just penetrated thru the hinges. just like before. dont want to make the same mistake so i made sure i glued them again 3 hours later after the maiden flight. lots of speed during landing. can really hover really well with this plane. harrie is really nice and no wing rock. deathslide(knife-edge) is really easy and looks great passing by 6 ft off the ground. rolling harrier, a bit squirly. flap spin is a breeze. blender is really easy to achieve . death roll .. kinda have to fight it just to loop it self. over all ....i like it...


good idea about putting a toothpick thru the hinges.. gonna try that on my new plane... fliton's edge 540. bigger motor and atleast 60A ESC.

tclaridge

For anyone doing 3D with this plane, can you post your throws for all control surfaces? The settings for the manual are way off, and I like to get some settings from folks doing good 3D.
Thx

aflipz

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45 degrees everywhere with plenty of expo (75%+) on the elevator, about 25-30% on the rudder and 50% on the ailerons worked well for me when i had one of these.

tclaridge

Thx aflipz. Exactly what I needed!

dumorian

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Maidened mine yesterday.

Eflight Park 480
11x7 prop
2100 20C lipo
35A ESC

A fun flier... but I'm going to test a 12x6e today. I think it needs just a bit more umph! So far, this plane seems to like to be moving forward, but that could be just a bad prop selection. I did put 2" foam wheels on it. I was easily able to navigate our converted from old hayfield to airstrip just two months ago landing strip. Does much better than my Typhoon which pretty much demands a hand launch.

I have triple rates set up. Low, medium and as much as I could get/high. Using up elevator on the airstrip did a nice job of keeping the prop out of the grass but what surprised me, is I could control the ground speed with the elevator. More up just forced the tail dragger wire more into the ground acting as a rear brake. It was very obvious.

I didn't do much with it in just a couple of 6 minute flights. Only took about 2 clicks of left aileron and a click or two of up elevator to trim it in. NICE! I'm still new to this hobby... just a few months now.. and I've not gotten the KE down yet... but during one of these flights it came together for me for a while and I was able to KE it easily for maybe 10 seconds under total control. Almost 0 input on the right stick. That was nice. I did do some loops and rolls and the plane was very stable. I'm impressed!

My five minute flight took only 580 mAh out of the battery, so 15 minutes should for sure be doable... 20 minutes of easy flight.

BTW, I've named this plane 'Jumbo'!