Im still in novice skill of flying, but I want to learn 3d, I was looking at the ultra rc 3d original, and the katana, but I dont want to get something that is going to get broken easy... any suggestions on a good first 3d plane?

I have a "Blade" 3D constructed from EPP foam. It's a little floppy but virtually unbreakable.

It does all basic 3D, harriers, walls, snaps, K/E, K/E loops, Prop hanging etc.

Best of all it wont shatter in a crash like a depron model.

Ailerons are ready hinged, elev and rudder are all moving.

buy one and have fun.

You definetly want an EPP plane. You may also want to check out e-foamies.com. They have a Revolution 3D trainer and they also offer an Extra 300 and Yak 54 once you move past the trainer. They are pricey but the fly great and are pretty much indestructible.

Check out tufflight.com they have some of the best epp's around the 4d lite definately indestructable!!

ok thanks guys... I was also looking at the any one can do 3d from great planes,

You mean the U-Can-Do EP?

yeah that one lol... .. anyone have that one, I read the review on it and it seemed promising..

I don't know who has it, but little 4 year old Justin Chi can fly one! [8D]

Video: http://media.putfile.com/3-yr-old-To...ling-UCD-3D-EF

Try www.fancyfoam.com Great flying 3D Foamy's that are tough. Fantastic service too. I very highly recommend their planes.

The Ultra rc planes you mentioned are 12oz, balsa, 31" span planes. They seem much like the Skeeter, which I find is the best flying electric I have. For learning I prefer a plane that can fly slowly and stable. I have 3 Fancyfoam planes - an Edge (semi retired) , 2 Ultra Bipes ( one dead, one in good shape). I never wrecked the Edge, just several fixable fractures. It flies flitty, darting around more than I like. The bipe flies very slowly while stable and was my favorite 3d electric until I got the Skeeter sorted out.

I have a 40" 3d Foamy Sukoi with the g-force wing. Didn't do much for me. I have Copperhead Extra that is very tough , flies great until I slow it down. It wing rocks its brains out in harrier. I have a Airfoilz Yak that for me is between the Copperhead and the Skeeter - flies fast well, flies harrier fair. I have only beat one plane to where it wasn't worth repairing more - my 1st FF bipe. It still flew better than anything else I had when I set it aside and started flying my 2nd FF bipe.

Really good 3d fliers can make the Edges and Yaks fly great. You and I may be better off with planes that fly great fot less-than-super fliers.

I also have an old Tribute that was given to me. It flies very slowly, harriers, hovers. It is not at all rigid which is why my friend got rid of it. He has a Skeeter which he loves. We built them from free plans we downloaded.

All of these planes break when crashed, some more than others, some are easier to repair. Currently I like balsa. You will probably like EPP for a while.

Justin Chi has just inspired me to quit flying...

His dad seems like a total control freak[sm=punching.gif][sm=punching.gif]

I agree. Every video, which equals about 10, he asks the same questions.

1 - "What is your name?"
2 - "How old are you?"
3 - "What are you flying?"

There are his AFPD videos, his Tensor video and his UCD videos. TOO MANY VIDEOS!!!!!

(I'd like to see that kid behind the sticks of a 40% Extra)

heck put the kid in a full scale pitts... as long as his dad is with him he won't forget to keep both hands on the stick