What is the groups take on the Laser 3D Sport as a first 3D type plane. Any other suggestions are appreciated. I have an SE right now, I need something a bit more on the edge:-)

I have a Nolimit 3D, and a Diablotin Super. Both are similar to the Laser 3D. The Madness is an other one. If you can fly a SE you can fly one of these with out a problem. It will land slower, and it has a very stable glide, but will get as wild as you want. As far as pattern goes these airplanes will do it nice and close and slow,but are not really pattern planes. Tom

The Laser 3D is a great flying plane. Test flew my buddy's today. Has a OS 50 with a APC 12-4. Very nose heavy and still flew well. Didn't have a chance to hover it, wind was BLOWING, but just held it in a harrier and flew it backwards a bit. I fly a Madness with a YS45 and they seem to fly very similar.

The Laser 3D may be a bit better because: Lighter with a more powerful motor than mine. The knife-edge of the Laser was much better, not as much coupling. BTW, Laser was built without the wingtips, for this reason. Laser has a bit more wing area and the straight leading edge, with no spoiler, it would drop like a rock and not drop a wing.

Add a tail brace, if not you will rip the horizontal or vertical stab off.

Great 3D plane. No good for pattern. Combo 3D/Pattern plane, not many choices and none of them cheap or made for a 40-50 size motor. Top Model is making some like the Diablo 2000 and the Preator.

My advice is avoid the fat wings and go for something sexy... A Pilot Seduction Freestyle? Or how about the new Hirobo Stream HiPerformance? There is also a EZ/Pilot Beat On.... (though a tad dated now)...