what would be needed for a great planes cap 232 58"??

basically im looking for a good aerobatic plane that will hover too, but i want to keep the size down

would this plane do? might need a .60 2 stroke?

any other suggestions for a plane?

thanks a lot
dan

I have a 22% 60 sized Yellow aircraft Cap 232 with a saito FA-100 4 stroke.

Hi Dan,

The great planes Cap 232 is a great airplane. Depending on the weight of the airplane a good 52 two stroke like the magnum 52 XLS will do the job. I ran my Cap with the Magnum 52 with a 12.25x3.75 prop and I was very happy with it. My plane came out at 5.5 pounds with a fiberglass cowl. The plane will hover, although it will not rocket out of the maneuver with the 52. I repowered this plane with a Magnum 80 four stroke with a 14x4W prop and I am VERY happy with this plane. The magnum 80 pulls it out of a hover with good authority.

My only complaints with the CAP is the size of the ailerons and the dihedral in the wing. The ailerons are too small and the wing dihedral introduces some undesired control coupling in knife edge. In retrospect, I would've built the ailerons larger, at least by 50%, and built the wing without any dihedral. Anyhow, the plane flies great. Just watch for tip stalling when you start slinging the plane around with those huge elevators!

Good luck,
Ken

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I had this plane a couple of seasons ago. I flew it on an OS .61 FX. I ended up with the plane as well balanced/tuned/trimmed as it gets. I ended up with a very true and precise flying plane. But it was still a heavy little cap. Mine was over 6lbs, kind of embarassing. [link=http://www.devino.org/mark/airplanepics/cap232.htm]My notes are out on this URL[/link].

-Cheech

Dan,

Are you sure you want a Cap? You know they like to snap. I have a Kyosho Cap 232 w/ OS 91 on the front. I have to be really careful w/ the elevator b/ it loves to snap..... For me, it just makes things more interesting.

I'm finishing my GP Cap now. It will weigh in at 8 lbs/8oz. Siato 91 for power.

Nice kit to build. I did not reduce the dihedral, so I'll get to find out first hand if GP is right about the dihedral being required.....I hear alot of rumblings otherwise...

Plane on buying the aftermarket cowl (I used Stan's fibertech). I can't see how anyone could possibly assemble that three peice monster and have it look decent.

Richard
Tomball, TX

Mine does fantastic walls. Bends over backwards.

elevators/Harriers are rock steady with 5% spioleron mixed in.

I did increase the size of the ailerons, using 1 1/2 inch trailing edge. however I do wish I had decreased the dihedral and the weight.

AUW is 6lb 2oz, with a Saito 91.

I have one. Very nice plane. Learning to hover with it. Has a saito 91 in it with a stans cowl. weighs 5.25 lbs. Lands olmost like a
trainer. On KE it pitches to the gear and rolls back upright. alittle mix and no prob.
Have fun you will like it.
Eric

thanks a lot guys. i read a review on tower hobbies and they said great things about its low speed characteristics...is this wrong??

how bad is this snap problem?..

thanks again
dan

I have not found this plane to snap any more than any other plane. I have had no problems bringing it in for a nice slow 3 pointer landing.

Yes if you apply too much elevator too sharply it will snap, but as I said, no more than any other.

Although I haven't flown mine yet, I've seen several GP caps fly and for a 40 sized plane they have generous wing area (comparable to some 60 sized planes) and low weight, resulting in a very lightly loaded wing (much lighter loading than 40 sized ARF Caps I've seen). This should help make it fairly gentle and forgiving for a high performance aerobatic plane.

Richard
Tomball, TX

I agree with sprink.
The only time i have a problem with snap is coming in slow and try to crank it up into a hover to fast.
normal flying; no snap.
Keep it light and it will float.

sprink;
is that yours in your avatar?

No that is my Capiche.

Photos of my GP cap below

ok good to know


anyone know how well Real Flight does with this plane..ill have to try it at my friends, i only remember flying the cap 2X on it.

what needs to be changed for hovering? anything?

thanks
dan

nice plane sprink!

dont have a pic to post but thats mine in my avatar.

The GP Cap 232 is on realflight G2. The blue red and white one. 40 size i think it is. ? Forget GP and buy a YA 60 sized cap 232 with Saito FA-100 the plane is incredible and more so with that engine. Plane a lil overpowered but man it will rocket out of a hover. No snap tendencies to this plane. None i have a problem with at least

rozzi how much are they? and do you have a link

i was interested in the GP one cause of the price and im in college, so thats a big issue hahaha


dan



edit: just looked, and i dont think ill get getting a saito 100 anytime soon...theyre not cheap


one more thing..will the GP cap blender and flat spin well?

You can go to www.yellowaircraft.com but i can tell you now that the YA cap is going to be more expensive than GP Cap. I heard the GP is a grewat plane to. One of my favs to fly on Real Flight. IMO you can't go wrong with either cap YA or GP. Absolutely love Cap 232's just me. But amn they are sexy bird LMAO

will the GP cap do blenders and flat spins?

what needs to be done to get it to hover?

i was thinking along the lines of a tower .61 or .75 engine in it...any other cheap suggestions?

thanks a lot
dan

Yes the cap will do blenders and flat spins, but does need the bigger ailerons. Does fantastic tumbling manouvers.

As with all planes this size without funfly wings, torque rolling is difficult, hovering impossible.

I suggest you get a fifty size 2 stroke, and work to make the plane light. There is plenty of scope for lightening the plane. depends on how much work you are willing to do.

Good fun plane though.

if ur looking at 60 size how about the funkey cap? very positive reviews and it has the same coloursheme as the YA one. Pete Tindal distribute them in the uk but dont know about anywhere else?

The Yellow aircraft range is the Funkey range. Would also need more than a 60 size engine for that weight to do 3D.

On the whole 60 size engines are not good for 3D - too heavy for the power they produce.

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As with all planes this size without funfly wings, torque rolling is difficult, hovering impossible.

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why is this?..from the earlier posts i was under the impression it would hover fine...