I am looking to buy an aeroworks 33% edge 540t ARF or the hanger 9 33% extra 330s ARF. I have been told that for 3D the edge is better(less likely to wing stall), but most people flying 3D are using the extra. Please help with information on this issue.

If you want a better 3D performer, the Edge usually is a better plane and can fly sequences well. The Extra is a better sequence plane and can do 3D well. So it depends on what type of flying you want to do. Between the two you mention, I'd go with the A/W as it is a little larger overall (105" vs 97" )

I'm sure you'll be happy with either plane. If cost is a factor, the H9 can be a great performer at a lower cost. Because it's smaller, you can go with a ZDZ80 and get great perfomance. The Edge usually needs a 100cc (twin) not only for the large size (drag, weight), but because it also needs the nose weight (the plane was originally designed around the 3W85B2 (7 lbs) ).

I was also told because the Edge has the striaght leading edge on the main wing that it harriers and hovers better with less stalls. I am primarily looking for freestyle and 3D. I am not much into the pattern flying. Thanks for the reply.

Edge for freestyle!

Here's some comments from Garett:

I would personally choose the Extra over the Edge. The reason being, the Extra will fly the IMAC style of flying much better than the Edge on a one to one basis. People say the Edge is better than the Extra in the freestyle. In my "opinion" and Edge is a great learning tool for 3d, But once you have figured out what it takes to do all the 3d stuff you can actually get allot more out of an Extra for the 3D. The edge does things like harriors and popup's pretty darn good. But it lacks in rudder power. The tapered wing on the Extra allows the plane to break away in the hard 3d stuff. The wing on the Extra is a little farther back and has the tapered leading edge, so this provides a arrow effect. The Edge has to push the straight leading edge around. The Fulkrum point of the wing on the edge is much further forward. This gives a drift feeling while flying the plane.
So in my opinion the Extra is a better all around plane. If you notice, there are not to many Edges in the past TOC's, and there are none in the top finishers!! Take this info as a grain of salt, but I have flown pretty much every brand, and style of plane on the market.
Garrett Morrison

Some people have all the luck

...........or cash. LOL !

ditto on the cash

Ah, A question I think I can answer. I have the aeroworks 33% edge. They call it a 33 but compared to everyone else's 35% it is very similar in size. It needs a good 100 twin to get the most out of it. It is a great 3-d plane, and will also fly normal aerobatics very well. I absolutely love mine! I also own the H9 33% cap, and have flown the extra. These are good planes, and 3-d well. The biggest advantage to these is you can get by on a zdz 80 which is quite a bit cheaper. These plaens are awsome performers, but I feel the aeroworks edge has an advantage over them. Eithere of these two planes will serve you well. It really boils down to how much you want to spend, and which one you like the looks of more. Everyone that has flown my edge, comments on how slowly it lands, and how great it flies. Good luck with your choice, and I would pick the aeroworks edge over the H9 extra. But if I were going to get a 35% carden I would get and Carden Extra over the Carden Edge, due mainly to what was qouted from what Garret said!

thanks for the info guys. It has been very helpfull. I hope that real soon i can swing the cash for whatever I decide. Last question. You said that the edge lands very slowly, would that attribute help with the harriers and hovering, or is it solely in forward flight?

My edge harriers very easily! You have to keep the throttle constant or the changing throttle settings will make the plane rock, but if you keep that under control it is very stable. The plane hovers, and TR's great! This plane gets in the "zone" and as long as you keep it there it will spin around and around in a TR. It also does great pop ups, and elevators. I can't think of anything it doesn't do well. It's a great flying plane!

Hovering has little to do with the wing or shape there of (aileron size and how close they come inboard has more of an effect)

As Capthis said, the A/W Edge is VERY solid in a harrier. It just doesn't want tip stall which obviously is a good thing when learning to harrier. If you get it in an odd angle of attack or not in the proper forward air speed for that specific angle the wings can rock but won't tip stall. It will just want to fall forward before it drops a wing. With that it mind, it's one of the toughest (if not THE toughest ) planes to get a good spin entry (Hence why the Extra is a better sequence plane).

Yep, In all actuality, A/W's 33% 540"T" is actually 34.76% (105" / 302") (www.zivko.com)

Their 36% 540 (single place) is actually 35.8% (105" / 292.8)

From a conversation I had with Rocco a couple years back, he said they did this to avoid confusion. At that time they still marketed both kits and the percentages where too close together. As a matter of fact, the only difference between both of their kits is the turtle deck, canopy and hatch cover. Other than that they are identical.

Good points! I don't think I have ever tried a regular spin with mine to see how cleanly or uncleanly it breaks! Another thing I really like about this plane is its knife edge abilities. It has very little if any roll coupling, and if you give it just a breath of up elevator in knife edge it's perfectly straight! A lot of the stuff we are talking about here is in the pilot also. I may think a plane harriers for instance very well, while a newer pilot may think its a handfull! An edge, or an extra would make a good plane for what you are wanting!

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Yep, In all actuality, A/W's 33% 540"T" is actually 34.76% (105" / 302") (www.zivko.com)

Their 36% 540 (single place) is actually 35.8% (105" / 292.8)

From a conversation I had with Rocco a couple years back, he said they did this to avoid confusion. At that time they still marketed both kits and the percentages where too close together. As a matter of fact, the only difference between both of their kits is the turtle deck, canopy and hatch cover. Other than that they are identical.
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Thanks for clearing it up. I knew it was closer to 35 than it was 33! Makes me feel better if nothing else!

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I don't think I have ever tried a regular spin with mine to see how cleanly or uncleanly it breaks!
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If you keep the wings level and have it in high rates, you can just keeping adding in up elevator to maintain altitude. At a certain point, forward airspeed stops and it will just elevator downward without droping a wing[X(]

What most guys find they have to do is lead in with a very small amount of of rudder (very, very small amount) and that can help. It is also important not to input too much elevator too quickly or you end up with stalled plane that is falling down in a 3D elevator.

I will try to remember that next time I fly it, and try some spins! It's been a long time since I tried regular spins, well since I learned how to hover anyway!