Hi everyone,

I am new to this forum and I have a question that sure I would have good answers for it..

I just bought a Cap 232 Briteling from Kyosho 46 size I have an OS 46Fx for it would it be produce enough power for this type of plane? I want to learn some 3d flying is it a good plane to start off with..

And what type of servos do you recommend for it I had in mind x2 S3001BB Futaba for ailerons and standard S3003 Futaba for the rest Rudder Elevator …… with regards to the batteries I am going to put 5 cell 6v to make the servos a bit faster.. would this help..


Thank you,
Michael
Malta

Hi.

This model will definately need more power than a .46 ... even on a .60 they struggle to hover.... something in the region of .70 is ideal.

For doing harriers etc that engine will be OK, but if you get into trouble it might not help you get out of it.

Nice plane though, does one of the best blenders i've ever seen a model do!

I FLEW A GP CAP232 WITH 46FX AND IT DIDNT PRODUCE ENOUGH POWER SO I PUT A 61FX AND NOW IT'S MUCH BETTER. PROP11X8 APC. I USED HITEC 422 SERVOS FOR ALL FLYING SURFACES. IF U THINK ON FS, THAN I RECOMMEND THE SURPASS 91 (A 70 IS NOT ENOUGH!)

try to keep the weight down at all costs. on a cap 232, try not to go four stroke. caps are known to snap out of tight pulls, and extra weight only makes it worse. i would just keep the fx if you jsut want to fly it around, but if you want to do more than that, sell it and buy a 60 size two stroke. on smaller models where weight will make the difference, you don't want to go four stroke.

Thats funny how you say that when every satio engine up to the 100 weighs less than any 60 sized two stroke with a muffler. I dont know about how that plane 3-D's but if you can get it to weigh 5 pounds or less then your 46 two stroke will be enough. If you are goind to trade your engine in, I would get anything between a Saito 72 up to the 100. The 72 weighs 3 oz less than the OS 70 and swings the same prop 300 rpm faster. The 100 weighs the same as the OS 70 and swings a 2" larger prop the same RPM. Of course this is just me and the only two strokes I buy are 80cc and up and burn gasoline.

ive heard bad things about the saito 80? heavy, underpowered?

Hi

I would prefer a two stroke on that plane the thing is how on earth you are all saying that it is going to be under powered this is all a built up plane from Kyosho and it is a very light plane 2500g as said on the manual..

thznks guys I see if i have a 60s size engine or better I dond want to install an engine with out suffecent power.

Thanks all
Michael

I used to have a kyosho cap 232 with a 46fx on it. It had enough power for just flying around. would not hold a hover even under full power for long just weighs to much. If you want to 3d look into other planes and motors. just my two cents. Good luck

YA Cap 232 with saito FA-100 13 by 10 prop = unlimited vertical see

i saw a kyoshio cap go fullpower over 110mph into sold concrete and it had very little damage, just a mucked up wingtip and a firewall pulled out, very strong

edible.. seen the same thing, this was with less speed... proably 50mph at most, had a dented cowl, slightly damaged wign sheeting at the tip and the rest cosmetic only.

110 mph into solid wqall with no damge. are you sure? a piece of contrete heading at that speed would shatter if it hit a wall

The plane weight comes out to 5.3 lbs on Tower's website. A 46FX with an APC 11.5-4 or 12-4 would do 3D fine. But they always weigh more than they advertise.

For a 2-stroke, I'd go with an Irvine 53.

For a 4-stroke, try a YS 63 or Saito 72. A Saito 91 would be the max. Saito 100 would be overkill if that's what you want.

The total ticket for power to weight would be the YS 63 on 30% nitro and 20% lube. Use an APC 13-4W for 3D.

Joe

I also have a cap 232 from kyosho. I picked it up second hand (or 3rd, 4th who knows) Anyhow the guy I got it from said he flew it with a 46fx, 61fx and 91fx. He said he liked the 91 fx the best because it would rocket out of hover. I put in a .61 fx mounted at the angle given so the stock muffler will go down the center of the fuse. Look around for them, got mine for $110 NIB on this site in the marketplace.
I had to put the battery in the tail to get it to balance at the recommended 3 3/8 from the Kyosho web site even thoufh the book I got from Kyosho says 3 3/4 to 4 1/4. Is this what your book calls out? I have yet to maiden it, so I'm not sure if this CG is good. better forward then back
Also put in a 14oz tank.
Also From what I've read keep the throws low at first so I'm running on dual rates. Elevator at 5/16 up and down low at 9/16 high. Aileron 1/4 low 3/8 hi and rudder 1 1/4.
Just kinda comparing notes.
Thanks

hi all i have joust got my slef a kyosho cap 232 second hand it has a SC46 in it will this be ok or shall i put biiger one init, i have a irvine 61 but feels a bit heavy ,, any no if this will be ok for it, the engine is also on a angle to get the muffler to come out the bottom middle,has any got any pics of there cap 232 so i can see how there engines fit thanks all ,, not flown this yet hope its good ??????????

well, it is a small cap 232 so be very careful. keep up your speed, never stall it and don't pull a hard up. it will snap out. all caps are like that.

long as its light it will be fine. caps are one of the most stable planes going in the scale 3d class, but it really does all depend on power and weight.

Im gonna get my kyosho cap out again, might fly it friday... then ill see if it will 3d!

Not having any knowledge around me when I first started my 2nd plane was a Cap 232 and I learned very quickly what the Snaps are! I had the old Hanger 9 232 with a 46fx and it flew the plane but that was about it. Nothing fancy but I didnt know better so I loved it. The 46fx was small and light so the plane really floated in like a trainer. Just have to remember to keep of the elevator to avoid a snap, otherwise a beutiful flying plane.

I have seen the Kyosho with a Saito 91 and performance was blistering!! A Saito 72 im convinced will fly this plane nicely. If I were to choose a 2 stroker I would go with:

Irvine 53
Magnum 52 XLS
OS 50SX

good luck

they are grayt flying planes until you try to do anything 3d with them. see, in real life, you can not pull enough up hard enough to snap out of a vertical pull in a real plane without killing yourself, so that does not matter. but when you take the design and scale it down then you are pulling more g forces than you could if you were in the plane and artifacts like that show up in the performance.