JamesMHarvey

Probably a silly question but....

Shahid

3D flying is when you fly in 3 dimensions. The term 3D originated from the Helicopter scene 'cause Helis can fly backwards. But I am sure there are better explantions.

Hope this helps though.

Luke 3D returns

What?
3D is basically flying the aircraft in a stalled condition, using lots of power and big control movements to make up for lift that would normally be generated by the wing. This allows you to do high angle of attack low passes with the nose at 45 degrees, end over end tumbles and manuvers where the plane drops towards the ground like a parachute, and many other such things.

as722

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3D is probably not the best term. Airplanes can't fly backwards or sideways. An airplane can only fly forward. I've never liked this term when it comes to airplanes. Extreme free style would be a better term

mithrandir

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1) The region of flight characterized by thrust vectoring and utilizing engine dynamics (Gyroscopic Precession) for unconventional flight regimes and maneuvers. Often accompanied by a fully seperated flow over the majority of the primary lifting surface (wing). The wings exist for take off, landing and someplace to hang the ailerons!!! LOL

2) The region of flight characterized by utilizing all aircraft surfaces for lift Except the wing!

C_Watkins

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I like that one
Makes me want to take an old funfly plane, and strip the covering off the wing, and give it a shot

Of course... I'd have to hand launch into a hover, and land it tail first...
and there's obviously that pesky bit about learning to fly 3D first, as well.

cabanestrut2002

so whats a trainer flying in, 2 dimensions?!

yes they can. a high alpha knife edge harrier is more or less flying sideways, albeit slowly.

a tailslide is flying backwards is it not and if you are clever you can keep it falling backwards for a little while.


3d is flying beyond the stall using thrust vectoring and power.

ifixairplanes

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NOTE: Big surfaces with HUGE deflection. The ailerons arn't at their max, but look at the tail! [X(]

as722

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Let me know when an airplane can takeoff backwards and do the whole unlimited sequence backwards and sideways I might agree then that they can 3d. Until then only helis can 3d.

Funtana_Cody

Why do u guys have to be such infants and fight over something like this. I'm sorry for my comment but it is true. Sometimes people can't just help it but open cans of worms about anything lately..

AJF--2

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3D flying is anything a real plane cannot do.

JamesMHarvey

Thanks for the responses...I think I got the picture.

_WIT_

I saw a Ford Pinto that could go backwards - musta been a "3D" Pinto!!!!!!!!!

Luke 3D returns wins the prize. 3D is 'flying' when the wing is stalled, ie, lift is generated from the engine thrust more than the wing.

Think about it - "D" means dimension. Dimensions are both plus and minus, 'forward' and 'backward' -if you must think of it that way- is still the same dimension. Three dimensions was not invented by model helicopter pilots, this concept has been around a long time. "Axis" might be a better descriptive term for flying objects.

Objects moving on the ground are generally thought to move in two dimensions - forward and backward is one, left and right is the other. Objects that fly can also move in the 3rd dimension - Up and Down!

D3AN0

kinda wrong in a way, look at the video of Kirby Chambliss, he takes off into a prop hang (or cobra as the full-sizers say) and he torque rolls. No lift generated by the wing, so surely its 3D?

Shahid

Ok Luke I see your point, but Heli 3D is different, you dont see planes doing inverted reverse loops.

But, they can fly backwards, its a manoever called the Moonwalk, you go into prophang and tilt slight backwards and fly backwards!

Well sort of but there is a manoever called the Moonwalk. Its on the International 3D org website.

ShaneUSMC

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I think it's 2 1/2!!

Sorry had to lighten the mood.[8D]

DTB

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This is 3D flying. I'm shocked no body linked you to a video. A video will say it all. Enough said...

Select your video depending on your connection speed.
http://www.chiphyde.com/html/dv/dvvideos.html

Enjoy,
DTB

AJF--2

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I have to disagree. If I have a model of Kirby's plane and I am doing the same thing with my plane that he is doing with his plane, then it is called "SCALE FLYING"

JamesMHarvey

What an incredible video! Thanks for sharing that. Now...since I'm still flying trainers, I have to ask...flying that low and slow, you must have had several "incidents" as you started learning to fly 3D?

This stuff is absolutely amazing and I hope to be able to get there one day. For now, I'll keep working on my landings and practicing on my flight sim.

L8R

AJF--2

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ONE MORE THOUGHT--- and this is taking NOTHING away from Kirby, but Jim Leroy and Sean D Tucker do the closest thing to 3D in their routine. Especially Jim (my hero). He does super slow and low high alpha rolls as well as torque rolls/hovers/tumbles that are beyond description and extreme high G knife edge outside edge circles. Check out the videos on his website, but you really got to see it in person.

http://www.bulldogairshows.com/

sensei

Guys this is real simple, 3D flying is nothing more than having a hell of a good time. What difference does it make.

Bob Sawyer

C_Watkins

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I caught Jim Leroy's show two years ago down in Perry, GA. He's certainly a blast to watch.

Shahid

I stand corrected...

Luke 3D returns

Zeppilot


If you go to woodsprings or the southern model show you will see some cool full size stuff- limbo at woodsprings,at the southern model show Curtiss with a Sukhoi did 12g! walls, rolling loops, torque walls ,harriers, elevators and hovering

halfandhalf825

3D: When u depend on the engine more than the wings.