Magic 3d tips...?
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I did post part of this in the engines forum, but I also I figured I'd try it here for a more 3d specific answer. I'm sure this question is repetitive so bear with me, lol.
I just acquired a Modeltech Magic airframe from our club's president. I bought a Magnum .46 LXS and I pirated my 4-channel skysport radio out of my trainer. This thing is a blast, it's nice to have an airplane that goes where you point it. Tuesday I ran 7 tanks of fuel through it, without incident, till I hit a stake in the ground on a low inverted pass(my stupid lack of depth perception). Just smashed in the leading edge, and it will be ready for some more action tomorrow.
What prop size should I be using for this thing? I am trying to practice harriers and hovering(among other things). It harriers ok for a while till I either get the angle of attack wrong or feed it too much/too little throttle. As far as hovering I can hang it for 3 or 4 seconds, but that's about it before it falls off forward/backward/to the side. Of course I don't expect to be able to learn how to do any of this in a day, but I think there may be a few things I can change to make it easier on myself...? Right now I've got a 10x6 prop on it but from what I've read, that might be too small? Any recommendations of prop size for 3ding? Also, if a certain brand is preferred? I am trying to lean away from Master Airscrew props, they always seem to be WAY out of balance when I buy them.
Also my CG is in the "stock" location, how far back/in what increments should I move it to help the situation? My radio equipment is packed in pretty tight, so I was going to pick up some stick-on lead weights. I can get these in 1/4 oz increments.
Also, I have a throttle transition problem. If I throttle it up and down quickly and repeatedly, there is good transition. But if I let it idle for about 5 seconds, then snap it wide open, it dies. Would this be a high speed or a idle setting problem? Which one do I need to lean or richen?
Any other hints and suggestions are appreciated. Unfortunately my skysport radio is a cheap FM 4 channel with NO features lol. I've done the appropriate things with the control horns to get as much throw as I can without binding, but I'm sure it's not the same as high rates!
TIA for any help.
-Bill
I just acquired a Modeltech Magic airframe from our club's president. I bought a Magnum .46 LXS and I pirated my 4-channel skysport radio out of my trainer. This thing is a blast, it's nice to have an airplane that goes where you point it. Tuesday I ran 7 tanks of fuel through it, without incident, till I hit a stake in the ground on a low inverted pass(my stupid lack of depth perception). Just smashed in the leading edge, and it will be ready for some more action tomorrow.
What prop size should I be using for this thing? I am trying to practice harriers and hovering(among other things). It harriers ok for a while till I either get the angle of attack wrong or feed it too much/too little throttle. As far as hovering I can hang it for 3 or 4 seconds, but that's about it before it falls off forward/backward/to the side. Of course I don't expect to be able to learn how to do any of this in a day, but I think there may be a few things I can change to make it easier on myself...? Right now I've got a 10x6 prop on it but from what I've read, that might be too small? Any recommendations of prop size for 3ding? Also, if a certain brand is preferred? I am trying to lean away from Master Airscrew props, they always seem to be WAY out of balance when I buy them.
Also my CG is in the "stock" location, how far back/in what increments should I move it to help the situation? My radio equipment is packed in pretty tight, so I was going to pick up some stick-on lead weights. I can get these in 1/4 oz increments.
Also, I have a throttle transition problem. If I throttle it up and down quickly and repeatedly, there is good transition. But if I let it idle for about 5 seconds, then snap it wide open, it dies. Would this be a high speed or a idle setting problem? Which one do I need to lean or richen?
Any other hints and suggestions are appreciated. Unfortunately my skysport radio is a cheap FM 4 channel with NO features lol. I've done the appropriate things with the control horns to get as much throw as I can without binding, but I'm sure it's not the same as high rates!
TIA for any help.
-Bill
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ORIGINAL: fiveoboy01
I did post part of this in the engines forum, but I also I figured I'd try it here for a more 3d specific answer. I'm sure this question is repetitive so bear with me, lol.
I just acquired a Modeltech Magic airframe from our club's president. I bought a Magnum .46 LXS and I pirated my 4-channel skysport radio out of my trainer. This thing is a blast, it's nice to have an airplane that goes where you point it. Tuesday I ran 7 tanks of fuel through it, without incident, till I hit a stake in the ground on a low inverted pass(my stupid lack of depth perception). Just smashed in the leading edge, and it will be ready for some more action tomorrow.
I did post part of this in the engines forum, but I also I figured I'd try it here for a more 3d specific answer. I'm sure this question is repetitive so bear with me, lol.
I just acquired a Modeltech Magic airframe from our club's president. I bought a Magnum .46 LXS and I pirated my 4-channel skysport radio out of my trainer. This thing is a blast, it's nice to have an airplane that goes where you point it. Tuesday I ran 7 tanks of fuel through it, without incident, till I hit a stake in the ground on a low inverted pass(my stupid lack of depth perception). Just smashed in the leading edge, and it will be ready for some more action tomorrow.

What prop size should I be using for this thing? I am trying to practice harriers and hovering(among other things). It harriers ok for a while till I either get the angle of attack wrong or feed it too much/too little throttle. As far as hovering I can hang it for 3 or 4 seconds, but that's about it before it falls off forward/backward/to the side. Of course I don't expect to be able to learn how to do any of this in a day, but I think there may be a few things I can change to make it easier on myself...? Right now I've got a 10x6 prop on it but from what I've read, that might be too small? Any recommendations of prop size for 3ding? Also, if a certain brand is preferred? I am trying to lean away from Master Airscrew props, they always seem to be WAY out of balance when I buy them.
Also my CG is in the "stock" location, how far back/in what increments should I move it to help the situation? My radio equipment is packed in pretty tight, so I was going to pick up some stick-on lead weights. I can get these in 1/4 oz increments.
Avoid adding on dead weight if at all possible. I ended up putting my battery in the tailboom.
Also, I have a throttle transition problem. If I throttle it up and down quickly and repeatedly, there is good transition. But if I let it idle for about 5 seconds, then snap it wide open, it dies. Would this be a high speed or a idle setting problem? Which one do I need to lean or richen?
Any other hints and suggestions are appreciated. Unfortunately my skysport radio is a cheap FM 4 channel with NO features lol. I've done the appropriate things with the control horns to get as much throw as I can without binding, but I'm sure it's not the same as high rates!
TIA for any help.
-Bill
TIA for any help.
-Bill



