weight issue for double vision owners
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I just completed setting up my double vision. I used a DA50 with a header and canister set from Chief aircraft.
My issue with the plane is the weight. As advertised it suggests it will weight approx. 15lbs.
I know Chip did but no longer advertises weight on his site know, and I'm wonder if this is the reason why.
This would give a wing loading of approx. 21.6 oz per sq. foot.
I followed the instruction used all the recommended equipment, and paid close attention to weight.
So after finial set up it weights just a little under 18lbs. Ouch, not what I was expecting.
I know have a 3D plane that weight 25.5 to 25.9 oz per square foot.
It looks like the wing load is starting to get a little high for a 3D flying. I'm used to Fontana 90 around 19 to 20 oz per sq foot.
1st what does yours weight?
2nd if it is coming in heaver than advertised how does it fly? Does the extra weight effect the
3D capabality?
My issue with the plane is the weight. As advertised it suggests it will weight approx. 15lbs.
I know Chip did but no longer advertises weight on his site know, and I'm wonder if this is the reason why.
This would give a wing loading of approx. 21.6 oz per sq. foot.
I followed the instruction used all the recommended equipment, and paid close attention to weight.
So after finial set up it weights just a little under 18lbs. Ouch, not what I was expecting.
I know have a 3D plane that weight 25.5 to 25.9 oz per square foot.
It looks like the wing load is starting to get a little high for a 3D flying. I'm used to Fontana 90 around 19 to 20 oz per sq foot.
1st what does yours weight?
2nd if it is coming in heaver than advertised how does it fly? Does the extra weight effect the
3D capabality?
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Your weight is pretty typical. This is a known issue that they come out way over 15 lbs. Not to worry, there's plenty of wing area and lots of HP on the DA-50. You will love how it flies. All the weights I've seen on RCU are in the 17's to 18's.
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I had a aeroworks 29% edge with a brison 53cc motor and it weighed 18 pounds and flew great and I was at about 38oz. per sq ft (as memory serves me) from everything I have heard the DV's with the DA are great.
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Mine weighs 15.8 lb. I did everything I could to shave off weight :
I used wood standoffs instead of metal.
I used micro servos on the wings and minis on the elevators.
I closed off the bottom with monokote instead of the belly pan.
I used Kavan wheels.
I did not install wheel pants or canopy
I attached and aligned the wings with nylon bolts instead of the heavy aluminum dowels provided
I cut out 2/3 of the firewall
I dremeled away at the wing roots, center top wing, etc.
I used a carbon fiber spinner
I used a regular muffler instead of the heavier cannister.
The airframe is a truly great 3-D design and I've ended up with an aircraft that's among my favorite ever. However, power with the DA-50 is
in my opinion marginal at this weight. Many people say they fly great at 17-18 lb, but I have to wonder whether they've flown anything like
what it'd fly like at 14 lb.
I used wood standoffs instead of metal.
I used micro servos on the wings and minis on the elevators.
I closed off the bottom with monokote instead of the belly pan.
I used Kavan wheels.
I did not install wheel pants or canopy
I attached and aligned the wings with nylon bolts instead of the heavy aluminum dowels provided
I cut out 2/3 of the firewall
I dremeled away at the wing roots, center top wing, etc.
I used a carbon fiber spinner
I used a regular muffler instead of the heavier cannister.
The airframe is a truly great 3-D design and I've ended up with an aircraft that's among my favorite ever. However, power with the DA-50 is
in my opinion marginal at this weight. Many people say they fly great at 17-18 lb, but I have to wonder whether they've flown anything like
what it'd fly like at 14 lb.
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If you have any weight concerns about the plane being to heavy to really fly any 3D with the DA 50 at 17 lbs check out the video of it at www.rickadams.net/tonybig.wmv The plane is 17 pounds
with a DA 50 and mini tuned can. No weight savings measures were taken. Note towards the end of the video were the DV climbs from a hover.
with a DA 50 and mini tuned can. No weight savings measures were taken. Note towards the end of the video were the DV climbs from a hover.
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Video speaks for itself.
There are a few areas were I can reduce a little weight. I'm for the most part going to wait and see for myself if I like the plane as is. The header and muffler are going to stay for sure. I know it adds additional weight however we have strict guidelines around noise at our field with population moving around us.
I appreciate everyones input, and if there is more of you out there that has anything else to add please do so.
There are a few areas were I can reduce a little weight. I'm for the most part going to wait and see for myself if I like the plane as is. The header and muffler are going to stay for sure. I know it adds additional weight however we have strict guidelines around noise at our field with population moving around us.
I appreciate everyones input, and if there is more of you out there that has anything else to add please do so.




