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Old 03-03-2005 | 11:26 PM
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Default Mix Aileron into each Elevator?

Now that I have a plane with separate Elevator halves, I was wondering the effect of mixing the Aileron into each elevator half. Each half would act like a little Aileron when you you Aileron. Obviously this should increase roll rate, but what other effect would it have? What about mixing it the opposite way, right Aileron up, right Elevator down?

This would be akin to Flaperon and Spoileron, but the other way. The Aileron would move the coresponding Elevator half.

Is there an easy way to mix this in on my 7CAP? The only way I could seem to mix it was by using two programmable mixes.
Old 03-04-2005 | 05:49 AM
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This is not much use for us. That mix is primarily for the jet guys. Just makes everything a bit more confusing, and effectively reduces elevator throw when ailerons are applied.
Old 03-04-2005 | 08:10 AM
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I fly scale aerobats and thought that the function looks cool so I tried it. My plane is setup for 3D but I also fly alot of IMAC with it. On IMAC rates, I do no lose any throw, since my elevators can move more than 45 degrees. On 3D rates, I don't lose any throw either since it is the ATV that stops the servo from moving.

Now for the effects in flight, I did not notice any noticable ones, frankly. I used a conservative amount though. Something like 15% or 20%. It SEEMED to make rolls more axial but that must be my imagination... On the other hand, it did not worsen anything so I left it as is. I have flow like this for 2 seasons now and will as is as long as the plane could fly...
Old 03-04-2005 | 02:20 PM
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I did that mix on fairly low rates with my ucando 3d, and the results were horrible. it would dip the tail when turning in normal flight, so it acted tail heavy and prone to stalling.
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Default RE: Mix Aileron into each Elevator?

That and you are using a lot more power by moving all the servos when you don't have too.

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Old 03-04-2005 | 04:52 PM
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Actually, if the elevator servos stay neutral while the plane is rolling, they drain current trying to stay neutral. MAYBE current is slightly different in both setups but IMO nowadays, we carry a lot of battery capacity aboard.

This kind of mix seems not to be good on all planes at least from my experience and smokingcrater's...

On IMAC rates, when doing a snap roll, one of the elevators stay neutral (about) and the other moves about twice the throw of elevator alone. One thing to note, a plane setup for 3D in smaller scale aerobats is most likely tail heavy so elevator throws are very modest for normal flying...

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