hey, the motor's listed on the 3d foamie site are all good, but which would be the best. thinking AXI or Hacker, which way should i go. also, would hs-50's be enough?

I'd go with a Saito 100.

the A20 Rocks....I tried several Himaxx and they were "OK" but the HAcker A20 really has a "wow" factor...

I use HS-55's so not sure about the 50's....bu they might work

I have an Axi, but from what I have seen, the Hacker is insane on the 3DFoamys.

hey buddy, i hope your kidding about the 100.................

that'll never take off!!!

i'm not sure abou the motors. will the a20 need a better ESC? i don't know what the amp draw is on each, also is the price comparable?

After getting a AXI. I love em. They are some of the smoothest running motors out there. Just balanced perfect, an really quiet.
You didnt mention what foamy you have, but if its a shockflyer....go for the AXI 2204/54.

Hacker makes some really nice motors too. I havent had the chance to fly one, but Steve Rojecki is using them, so they cant be that bad....of course they are probably one of his sponsors, so that might be why.

Hey Steve, when you gonna get a 14MZ? LOL.....JR would kill him.

I still like the Axi's though. Just a real quality motor.

my e-flite 370 4100kv scared me with its power but i also credit the
3 cell 1320 they say the 400 is a good direct drive alt.
i would have got hacker but didnt want to soder connections ..already did for 2 servos works great but hobby shop didnt have y harness
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actually i did mention which foamie... the cap 232 from 3dfoamie.com but that is of no consequence. i am tossing up between the 2212 and the 2208 now, (i like the feedback i have heard abou t axi, and i can go variable pitch later if i want). is the extra grunt worth it?

Hmm...that all depends.

There's no such thing as too much power, but it shouldnt be done at the cost of flight performance.

There's a fine balance between weight and power on electric aircraft.

More power usually requires more weight due to a heavier motor. More weight will make the plane faster and have more vertical, but the plane is harder to slow down, and wont remain stable at slower speeds.

Lighter planes will slow down and be stable at slow speeds, but dont have the speed that the heavier planes do, and wont be able to cut into the wind as easily.

If your flying indoors...GO LIGHT...as light as you can get it. Everything you do building it, should be done as lightly as possible. Light weight glues, carbon fiber, Tape the top of the control surfaces, and just a few strips on the bottom. Shorten all wires. Use light weight servos, use light weight 2 cell lipos, etc. Move the CG a tad aft for good 3D performance.

If your flying outside. Slap a huge motor on it, dont worry to much about weight. Use thick foam, sturdy durable servos, and a nice 3cell lipo. Then find a BIG field to fly in and let er rip.

For indoor flight, with planes up to 8oz the 2204/54 should work fine. Once you hit 9oz, its time to look for something a little bigger. Like a 2208 or something.

Outdoor...hmmm depends on what the plane weighs.

I have the AXI 2212-26 on my Foamy with a 11 x4.7 prop. With a good battery(tanic 1500) it turns 6300rpm. The plane comes in a about 1 pound and the power is incredible. Yes, I am over driving it with more prop than AXI recommends, but I have about 200 flights and it has shown no sign of wear. Very happy with it.

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