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Old 06-27-2005, 10:48 AM
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Default 3D f0r .61 FX

What would be a good 3D plane for a .61 FX. I was looking at the profiles but would like the non-profilers opinions also. F40? PLH edge 46? What do you think? I liked the MoJo 60m profile but I don't wanna build.
Old 06-27-2005, 11:39 AM
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Default RE: 3D f0r .61 FX

I vote for the PL Edge. I have the YS 63 on it and the 61FX should be enough power for it. The ARF is a very good IMO. Especially for only $150. That Filton Extra 330s looks nice too (but $60 more than PL Edge).
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Default RE: 3D f0r .61 FX

If I am going to mount something that weighs as much as a .61 in a 3D plane I want the .91.

I just got the Fliton Extra 330 in the mail last Friday. Looks very good. I went with the Fliton over the PL EDGE and paid the $60 more because flight reports are indicate to me that it is stronger on its side. I like the Edge looks better though.

Someone just installed a .61TT on this plane and is soon to have a flight report here

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_21...tm.htm#3110844

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Old 06-27-2005, 10:02 PM
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Default RE: 3D f0r .61 FX

Spacewalker. I understand where your coming from with the whole .91 same weight more power thing. Thing is I'm trying to just buy an airframe here. I have a Saito 180 because I'm not one to skimp on power but I just want to stay cheap. Is the PLH edge really that good? I heard people say it. I'm just alittle scared about not going with a big name company. I'd like to see somonme huckin the Fliton. I always see videos ofnthem flying it IMAC style.

I was also looking at Modeltech's new planes thre formula looks pretty good.
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Default RE: 3D f0r .61 FX

Yes PL Edge is that good. I've been flying the crap out of mine and it continues to amaze me. It's a great 3D and IMAC plane. The only complaint I have is that it's a little heavy at 6 pounds.

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Spacewalker. I understand where your coming from with the whole .91 same weight more power thing. Thing is I'm trying to just buy an airframe here. I have a Saito 180 because I'm not one to skimp on power but I just want to stay cheap. Is the PLH edge really that good? I heard people say it. I'm just alittle scared about not going with a big name company. I'd like to see somonme huckin the Fliton. I always see videos ofnthem flying it IMAC style.

I was also looking at Modeltech's new planes thre formula looks pretty good.
Old 06-28-2005, 10:28 AM
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Default RE: 3D f0r .61 FX

Do you have any video? Would you say the PLH edge outperforms a profile of the same size?
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Default RE: 3D f0r .61 FX

hey guys, 6 lb is heavy????

my f40 weight 6.5 lb with the 91 fx in it, i dont see how it could be lighter without using mini servo for throttle, etc...
with everything standart as it should be with the 61 fx, it weight 6lb...

now after some repairs, my f40 with the 91fx, weights 7.5 lb wet, and i stills one of the best performers ive tryed... in my opinion, little weight saveing doent improve very much the stability or performance of the plane, un-less its over weight for a particular plane...
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Default RE: 3D f0r .61 FX

There is no way for a scale looking plane to outperform a profile of the same size(weight). It just will not have the wing area(and sometimes side fuse area).

There is a video of the Fliton 330 on the Fliton web site & also a video of the PL 540 that Kyle is flying. Both video's are very good and feature mostly 3D.

The reason why I favored the Fliton over the Extra is that flight reports say that the 540 is not KE Loop capable and the Fliton is. Other than that, they are comparable in weight and wing area.
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hey guys, 6 lb is heavy????
No, for a 60" x 60" scale plane with a .91(23oz motor) in it is not heavy. That means that the airframe alone must weigh only 3 pounds.


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Default RE: 3D f0r .61 FX

That's what I was going to say, the profiles always outperform the scale planes of the same size (the good profiles anyway).

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There is no way for a scale looking plane to outperform a profile of the same size(weight). It just will not have the wing area(and sometimes side fuse area).
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We have a video of the PLH Edge 46 at www.aerofunrc.com its featured on "aerofun hardcore flying, and edge 46 vs funtana"
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Default RE: 3D f0r .61 FX

I'm not real crazy about the covering job on that Filton. I like more scale looking stuff myself.
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Old 06-29-2005, 08:14 AM
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Default RE: 3D f0r .61 FX

Man I really like the PLH edge but I really want a profile for the way they perform. Do you think it would be better to stuff a .61 in a smaller 40 size profile or to put it in a profile like the 70 size kantana I really like power but worried about wingloading/balance issues. A Built MOJO 60 would be awsome.
Old 06-29-2005, 09:18 AM
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Default RE: 3D f0r .61 FX

GP - you waiting for my flight report? Hahaha ... soon ... very soon!!! I got the TT61 to turn an APC 13x6 @ 11,250 RPM (I am sure the APC 14x4W will give me the same number of REVs as the loading is about the same) ... the Saito 72 would only give me 10,250 RPM and I can hover with the Saito, another 1K RPM will be fun, will get her up this weekend when I get my new TT61 carb. As for the covering the trims will want to come out, so you have to iron everything before you fly it and then use some clear nail polish or thin CA (just a smudge) on all the tips of the trimmings.

In all honesty, I have flown the F40, F90, TT Spirit 3D, Magic, Magic Extra, Fun Star ... The best buy for 3D is the Fliton Extra, second is the TT Spirit. Why is the Fliton Extra better? It DOES NOT flutter!!!

The Fliton is something you will not regret and I can assure you of a money back guarantee (please note I am 10,000 miles away), hahahahaaa ...
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Default RE: 3D f0r .61 FX

Yea I Don't know what it is I just don't like the looks of them Flitons. I really think I wanna get a profile now. Just gotta figure of I should get the Kantana 60 or the kantana/Yak 40
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Default RE: 3D f0r .61 FX

The profiles are usually very light and putting a 61FX on a plane that can handle a 46AX is really a waste of wing loading. So a 61FX on a 40 sized profile will work but will be heavy. I'd say put the 61FX on a 60 sized profile that is 6 lbs or less.

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Yea I Don't know what it is I just don't like the looks of them Flitons. I really think I wanna get a profile now. Just gotta figure of I should get the Kantana 60 or the kantana/Yak 40
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GP - you waiting for my flight report? Hahaha ... soon ... very soon!!! I got the TT61 to turn an APC 13x6 @ 11,250 RPM (I am sure the APC 14x4W will give me the same number of REVs as the loading is about the same) ... the Saito 72 would only give me 10,250 RPM and I can hover with the Saito, another 1K RPM will be fun, will get her up this weekend when I get my new TT61 carb.
What are you running for fuel and exhaust system on your TT61? 11,250 is very good for a 13 x6 apc.

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Default RE: 3D f0r .61 FX

funtana 40 with os-61 fx is a good combination
Old 07-01-2005, 04:13 AM
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Default RE: 3D f0r .61 FX

I am on stock muffler and Cool Power 15% heli, will retach it again, I did see it go past 11K in a few runs as I was trying to find the leak, it was not running too lean for sure. Engine was not terribly hot. I realise it was a fair bit for a 13x6.
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Default RE: 3D f0r .61 FX

I have an old ST.75 on a Mayham type thing that turns an APC 12 x6 12,500, but a MA Scimitar plastic 13 x6 lugs it back to 10,300. I like the 13 x6 better because it sounds a lot nicer. The plane is 6 pounds and it has good power.

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Old 07-01-2005, 11:01 AM
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I am on stock muffler and Cool Power 15% heli, will retach it again, I did see it go past 11K in a few runs as I was trying to find the leak, it was not running too lean for sure. Engine was not terribly hot. I realise it was a fair bit for a 13x6.
you should try using a 13x5 master airscrew we have used that prop here for a long time with great success in 3D planes, btw engine i'm using is thunder tiger 70 heli version.

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