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I have been flying my Aeroworks Edge and have not been able to overcome the "tail heavy" condition that seems to exist. Earlier, I wrote that I believed my Edge had some built in downthrut which I countered with about two degrees of up thrust because when I chopped throttle from wide open, the airplane would climb. That seemed to help. I have moved the rudder servo back to the tail and secured the battery pack just in front of the TE of the wing to bring the CG back to 3 1/2" behind the leading edge. Regardless the Edge still flies with up trim. That just ain't right. I had written earlier about this and have since learned that my earlier measurements were flawed. Must have bumped something when I was measuring with the incidence meter and have now learned that the wing is at about 1 1/2 degrees negative incidence. The stab and engine thrust line are 0 - 0, but the wing is at a negative incidence! It is nothing I have built in. That is the way the fuse was cut from the factory. To be sure, I measured repeatedly under different methods of measurments, i.e., levels, tri-square, rulers, incidence meter, and combinations of. It all comes out the same - negative 5/16" wing incidence.
My curiousity is, are all of you who are moving the CG back experiencing the same flying traits. Has anyone checked the incidence of their wing relative to the stab and thrust line?
I am am planning to drop the trailing edge of the wing about 5/16" at the trailing edge. This will bring everything to 0 -0 -0 where I expect it should have been.
I have to say, even with this horrid misalignment, the Edge with a Saito 91 is a nice flying airplane. Can't wait to hear your comments and also to get this thing back in the air.
My curiousity is, are all of you who are moving the CG back experiencing the same flying traits. Has anyone checked the incidence of their wing relative to the stab and thrust line?
I am am planning to drop the trailing edge of the wing about 5/16" at the trailing edge. This will bring everything to 0 -0 -0 where I expect it should have been.
I have to say, even with this horrid misalignment, the Edge with a Saito 91 is a nice flying airplane. Can't wait to hear your comments and also to get this thing back in the air.
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RE: AeroWorks Edge 540T 46-60?
I woke up this morning and the first thing that popped into my head was that I had wrote "tail heavy" condition rather than the correct "nose heavy" condition in my comments late last night. Sorry for the initial confusion.
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been looking into this plane but have just one question how does the wing mount to the fuse i looked at the manual and it just shows the two bolts in the back of the wing and no pegs at the leading edge how does the front lock in any pics would be great thanks in advance
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ORIGINAL: jmccartney
been looking into this plane but have just one question how does the wing mount to the fuse i looked at the manual and it just shows the two bolts in the back of the wing and no pegs at the leading edge how does the front lock in any pics would be great thanks in advance
been looking into this plane but have just one question how does the wing mount to the fuse i looked at the manual and it just shows the two bolts in the back of the wing and no pegs at the leading edge how does the front lock in any pics would be great thanks in advance
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I have been flying my Aeroworks Edge and have not been able to overcome the ''tail heavy'' condition that seems to exist. Earlier, I wrote that I believed my Edge had some built in downthrut which I countered with about two degrees of up thrust because when I chopped throttle from wide open, the airplane would climb. That seemed to help. I have moved the rudder servo back to the tail and secured the battery pack just in front of the TE of the wing to bring the CG back to 3 1/2'' behind the leading edge. Regardless the Edge still flies with up trim. That just ain't right. I had written earlier about this and have since learned that my earlier measurements were flawed. Must have bumped something when I was measuring with the incidence meter and have now learned that the wing is at about 1 1/2 degrees negative incidence. The stab and engine thrust line are 0 - 0, but the wing is at a negative incidence! It is nothing I have built in. That is the way the fuse was cut from the factory. To be sure, I measured repeatedly under different methods of measurments, i.e., levels, tri-square, rulers, incidence meter, and combinations of. It all comes out the same - negative 5/16'' wing incidence.
My curiousity is, are all of you who are moving the CG back experiencing the same flying traits. Has anyone checked the incidence of their wing relative to the stab and thrust line?
I am am planning to drop the trailing edge of the wing about 5/16'' at the trailing edge. This will bring everything to 0 -0 -0 where I expect it should have been.
I have to say, even with this horrid misalignment, the Edge with a Saito 91 is a nice flying airplane. Can't wait to hear your comments and also to get this thing back in the air.
I have been flying my Aeroworks Edge and have not been able to overcome the ''tail heavy'' condition that seems to exist. Earlier, I wrote that I believed my Edge had some built in downthrut which I countered with about two degrees of up thrust because when I chopped throttle from wide open, the airplane would climb. That seemed to help. I have moved the rudder servo back to the tail and secured the battery pack just in front of the TE of the wing to bring the CG back to 3 1/2'' behind the leading edge. Regardless the Edge still flies with up trim. That just ain't right. I had written earlier about this and have since learned that my earlier measurements were flawed. Must have bumped something when I was measuring with the incidence meter and have now learned that the wing is at about 1 1/2 degrees negative incidence. The stab and engine thrust line are 0 - 0, but the wing is at a negative incidence! It is nothing I have built in. That is the way the fuse was cut from the factory. To be sure, I measured repeatedly under different methods of measurments, i.e., levels, tri-square, rulers, incidence meter, and combinations of. It all comes out the same - negative 5/16'' wing incidence.
My curiousity is, are all of you who are moving the CG back experiencing the same flying traits. Has anyone checked the incidence of their wing relative to the stab and thrust line?
I am am planning to drop the trailing edge of the wing about 5/16'' at the trailing edge. This will bring everything to 0 -0 -0 where I expect it should have been.
I have to say, even with this horrid misalignment, the Edge with a Saito 91 is a nice flying airplane. Can't wait to hear your comments and also to get this thing back in the air.
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RE: AeroWorks Edge 540T 46-60?
well after some thanks thru this 20cc engine, i can say is a really good choice for those who want to practice some 3D and freestyle, i ended with 15x8 APC propeller after testint 15x6, 15x4w, 14x4W, etc. with Xoar the engine will load too much, at least 15x6, 15x8. Maybe a 16" will give me more punch, dont know. Today i tested finally the APC 15x8 and it really make a difference, it pulls the airplane really well, the speed was amazing, it will not hover the airplane too much time, but enough to practice a bit. Doing some rolling harriers makes me feel happy, enough fun to get back to my house relaxed lol. Did like 8 tanks today, just 2 with my 50cc Extra, too much wind.
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I;ve got a spinner question...
I thought I would dress this model up with a nice 2-1/4" aluminum spinner, so I got Dave Brown Products to ship one, precut for a 14x6 prop hub. The engine is a Magnum .91 (OS-91 clone) 2S.
Unfortunately, not matter what combination I try, I cannot get the spinner, adapter nut and prop to fit... if I use a short adapter, it doesn't have enough thread to seat on the prop. If I use a long adapter, it's too long to let the 2-1/4" spinner to seat into its backplate.
What have you guys used for spinner/adapter nut combinations?
Thanks,
Bob
I thought I would dress this model up with a nice 2-1/4" aluminum spinner, so I got Dave Brown Products to ship one, precut for a 14x6 prop hub. The engine is a Magnum .91 (OS-91 clone) 2S.
Unfortunately, not matter what combination I try, I cannot get the spinner, adapter nut and prop to fit... if I use a short adapter, it doesn't have enough thread to seat on the prop. If I use a long adapter, it's too long to let the 2-1/4" spinner to seat into its backplate.
What have you guys used for spinner/adapter nut combinations?
Thanks,
Bob
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ORIGINAL: N1EDM
I;ve got a spinner question...
I thought I would dress this model up with a nice 2-1/4'' aluminum spinner, so I got Dave Brown Products to ship one, precut for a 14x6 prop hub. The engine is a Magnum .91 (OS-91 clone) 2S.
Unfortunately, not matter what combination I try, I cannot get the spinner, adapter nut and prop to fit... if I use a short adapter, it doesn't have enough thread to seat on the prop. If I use a long adapter, it's too long to let the 2-1/4'' spinner to seat into its backplate.
What have you guys used for spinner/adapter nut combinations?
Thanks,
Bob
I;ve got a spinner question...
I thought I would dress this model up with a nice 2-1/4'' aluminum spinner, so I got Dave Brown Products to ship one, precut for a 14x6 prop hub. The engine is a Magnum .91 (OS-91 clone) 2S.
Unfortunately, not matter what combination I try, I cannot get the spinner, adapter nut and prop to fit... if I use a short adapter, it doesn't have enough thread to seat on the prop. If I use a long adapter, it's too long to let the 2-1/4'' spinner to seat into its backplate.
What have you guys used for spinner/adapter nut combinations?
Thanks,
Bob
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ORIGINAL: JOHNS3D
well after some thanks thru this 20cc engine, i can say is a really good choice for those who want to practice some 3D and freestyle, i ended with 15x8 APC propeller after testint 15x6, 15x4w, 14x4W, etc. with Xoar the engine will load too much, at least 15x6, 15x8. Maybe a 16'' will give me more punch, dont know. Today i tested finally the APC 15x8 and it really make a difference, it pulls the airplane really well, the speed was amazing, it will not hover the airplane too much time, but enough to practice a bit. Doing some rolling harriers makes me feel happy, enough fun to get back to my house relaxed lol. Did like 8 tanks today, just 2 with my 50cc Extra, too much wind.
well after some thanks thru this 20cc engine, i can say is a really good choice for those who want to practice some 3D and freestyle, i ended with 15x8 APC propeller after testint 15x6, 15x4w, 14x4W, etc. with Xoar the engine will load too much, at least 15x6, 15x8. Maybe a 16'' will give me more punch, dont know. Today i tested finally the APC 15x8 and it really make a difference, it pulls the airplane really well, the speed was amazing, it will not hover the airplane too much time, but enough to practice a bit. Doing some rolling harriers makes me feel happy, enough fun to get back to my house relaxed lol. Did like 8 tanks today, just 2 with my 50cc Extra, too much wind.
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ORIGINAL: N1EDM
I'm afraid that if I do that, there won't be enough meat for the 10-32 screw to grab safely... but I'll keep that under advisement.
Was anyone able to get a 2-1/4'' spinner onto this cowl with a .91 in it?
Bob
I'm afraid that if I do that, there won't be enough meat for the 10-32 screw to grab safely... but I'll keep that under advisement.
Was anyone able to get a 2-1/4'' spinner onto this cowl with a .91 in it?
Bob
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JOHNS3D, how is your final weight using a 20cc?(Zenoah?) Isn't the plane heavy from that, thus affecting 3D and recovery ability? I would think, too, that the plane doesn't have much glide if it deadsticks.
JOHNS3D, how is your final weight using a 20cc?(Zenoah?) Isn't the plane heavy from that, thus affecting 3D and recovery ability? I would think, too, that the plane doesn't have much glide if it deadsticks.
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RE: AeroWorks Edge 540T 46-60?
@johns3d Sounds fun with a little gasser on this, But what would be better saito100 4c or RCGF 20CC ..Ive never has a gasser and im not in a club but i have a nice place to fly, would setting a gasser up be difficult? Any insight would be appreciated. I may have got this plane a bit quick"not sure yet. Ive beeen flying a spad dogfighter and PTS hangar9 mustang . And a nexstar ..I do own G5 sim , which i put good hours in.
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You'll be fine with this plane. Awesome first precision aircraft! If you have the Saito, put it in. Easier to set-up, ie, like the way the manual wants you to. When you have a handle on CG and flight characteristics then consider the gasser swap.
I miss mine!!! I'll get another one...winter 2010 project, no gas, hehehe.
I miss mine!!! I'll get another one...winter 2010 project, no gas, hehehe.
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thnx for the reply. I actually was wondering if i may would like the cheap out with a super tiger or thunder tiger 2 stroke.91 instead of the saito 100. Sorry i cant remember if its super tiger or thunder tiger atm , one of the 2 has a .91 2c for like 129 us dollars
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thnx for the reply. I actually was wondering if i may would like the cheap out with a super tiger or thunder tiger 2 stroke.91 instead of the saito 100. Sorry i cant remember if its super tiger or thunder tiger atm , one of the 2 has a .91 2c for like 129 us dollars
thnx for the reply. I actually was wondering if i may would like the cheap out with a super tiger or thunder tiger 2 stroke.91 instead of the saito 100. Sorry i cant remember if its super tiger or thunder tiger atm , one of the 2 has a .91 2c for like 129 us dollars
The TT is a stronger/better engine & will turn a bigger/higher pitch prop.
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If i was to buy a saito 100, for this edge 46-60 would i be able to mount the engine using existing blind nuts? do ineed to re drill, buy a certain mount?.Im sure theres many here that can answer this.. TY
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One other thing , does any one know if Aeroworks sells replacment parts to this edge 540 40-60''so they call it''
One other thing , does any one know if Aeroworks sells replacment parts to this edge 540 40-60''so they call it''
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If i was to buy a saito 100, for this edge 46-60 would i be able to mount the engine using existing blind nuts? do ineed to re drill, buy a certain mount?.Im sure theres many here that can answer this.. TY
If i was to buy a saito 100, for this edge 46-60 would i be able to mount the engine using existing blind nuts? do ineed to re drill, buy a certain mount?.Im sure theres many here that can answer this.. TY
http://www.rcuniverse.com/product_gu...fm?kit_id=3862
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RE: AeroWorks Edge 540T 46-60?
ORIGINAL: airborne2.4
Have a look at the reviews. I often ask Jimeni about a lot of things......he's always willing to help.
http://www.rcuniverse.com/product_gu...fm?kit_id=3862
ORIGINAL: phatg0nk
If i was to buy a saito 100, for this edge 46-60 would i be able to mount the engine using existing blind nuts? do ineed to re drill, buy a certain mount?.Im sure theres many here that can answer this.. TY
If i was to buy a saito 100, for this edge 46-60 would i be able to mount the engine using existing blind nuts? do ineed to re drill, buy a certain mount?.Im sure theres many here that can answer this.. TY
http://www.rcuniverse.com/product_gu...fm?kit_id=3862
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I see where DLE is going to be releasing a 20 also, according to some people it might be available in August/September, might be a good match to this plane.
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I see where DLE is going to be releasing a 20 also, according to some people it might be available in August/September, might be a good match to this plane.
I see where DLE is going to be releasing a 20 also, according to some people it might be available in August/September, might be a good match to this plane.
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RE: AeroWorks Edge 540T 46-60?
yes , Ive actually heard that rumor as well, but i have never owned a gasser or 4c , im thinking of switching to gasser after using a saito for awhile