I am having problems getting my flip 3D to come out of inverted flat spins I can curently spin it down to about 2 feet and wonder any ideas I think ground effect may be part of the problem ?

I don't understand the problem.

As I read your post you can flat spin the plane down to 2 feet. How low do you want to go?

Doc ,

I am definitely sure that ur CG is to far forward. Try moving it aft so that it is align with the trailing edge of the wing (or better yet, move it to the horizontal stab leading edge).

This way when u release the down elev ur Flip 3D will already be pointing up. U just need to gunned the throttle to recover to the hover.

Try it at ur own risk. Now if this work out, remember U got it from me!!!

May My Flip R.I.P
Hisham