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I could use a new canopy for mine. The wind caught it one day and blew it off the table, scratching the canopy and engine cowl. [&o]
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Patternman: sorry to hear your loss. I always hate it when these kind of things happen. Don't mind if it crashes when I flew badly, but otherwise....
For me, the Inspire is not made for any high speed whatever. I always fly it very slowly. It just doesn't seem to be made for high speeds. I use for that my pattern planes ! For what I have seen sofar, the Inspire is great for doing just that! If I would crash it now, I would buy it again, since what the plane is capable of is still quite apart from what I can do! Still much to learn!
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For me, the Inspire is not made for any high speed whatever. I always fly it very slowly. It just doesn't seem to be made for high speeds. I use for that my pattern planes ! For what I have seen sofar, the Inspire is great for doing just that! If I would crash it now, I would buy it again, since what the plane is capable of is still quite apart from what I can do! Still much to learn!
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I guess I will buy a fuse replacement
I think I can repair the one damaged wing
I wanted to recover the wings anyways.
Seen any great recovers, other than the one in this thread?
I think I can repair the one damaged wing
I wanted to recover the wings anyways.
Seen any great recovers, other than the one in this thread?
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for me, the Inspire is not made for any high speed whatever.
I am finnally settle on flying my YS63 with an APC 13X4W. The engine spools up instanteneously, pulls hard thru everything, plenty of speed to groove on the big manuevers and no overspped for the Inpire on the downlegs. Almost a perfect prop.
Contrary to what other(s) said, I think It groves almost as good as any pattern plane at the right speed.
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Patternman, I always fly it with a APC 14x4W (on Saito Fa-82). On a APC 13x8 it just doesn't seem right IMHO, too fast
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Hi guys, had maiden today and flys as good as any plane i had. Used some of the tips on this thread, off set engine to the side, apoxy the wing in place and used a 12 oz tank, reinforced fire wall and landing gear area. Need on trim at all, great plane. dave
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XXSPEED: That is a great looking field you guys have over there. Nice setup with the table as well!!
What kind of engine/prop set up are you flying on your Inspire?
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What kind of engine/prop set up are you flying on your Inspire?
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wagen017, Thanks for the kind words we fly at a golf course that was closed. I know this is over kill but the engine is a Evo 100, i plan to get a 3 bladed prop for it, i use a JR XP9303 2.4GHx radio. I going out to day for flight try some more stuff with the Insire.
Here a link to a jet rally we had this year. later dave
www.farviewflyers.net
Here a link to a jet rally we had this year. later dave
www.farviewflyers.net
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Read the whole thread. Geting an Inspire 60 next week. Sounds like I will love it. Will be running 6v. Just crashed my Reactor, my fault. Seems to me I could use my HS 225's(67 oz) in the ailerons and my Fut 3050's(90 oz) or my JR DS821's(88 oz) in elevator and rudder. MAYBE the rudder might need more and I have a Hobbico CS70(133 oz). Rudder can't need more than that. My reactor was fine with the 3050's all around and the Inspire is about same size and weight. Will be using my Saito 82 with Perry pump. Seems to me a HUGE jump from Fliton site recommended 5245's for moderate flying to 5945's (rudder and elevator) for advanced. Strikes me that a Saito 100 would be too much for this plane so not sure I get the Advanced recomendations on the Fliton site. Flying sport IMAC and trying to do 3D.
My Guess is the 225's(1.09 oz) for Ailerons, a DS 821(1.5 oz) for Elevator and Rudder OR the CS 70(1.9 oz) for rudder give all the power at the least weight for servos I already have. What do you think?
The reactor flew good but the covering was s***. I sealed seams with Acetone but missed a couple. Too much oil on the wood to fix the last fuse damage. Used packing tape to keep it together. Have stripped it in prep for the Inspire. I think I will seal and spray the Inspire before flying. Don't know how you would get covering to stick to oil soaked balsa.
My Guess is the 225's(1.09 oz) for Ailerons, a DS 821(1.5 oz) for Elevator and Rudder OR the CS 70(1.9 oz) for rudder give all the power at the least weight for servos I already have. What do you think?
The reactor flew good but the covering was s***. I sealed seams with Acetone but missed a couple. Too much oil on the wood to fix the last fuse damage. Used packing tape to keep it together. Have stripped it in prep for the Inspire. I think I will seal and spray the Inspire before flying. Don't know how you would get covering to stick to oil soaked balsa.
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Dave: Can't look at your flying site!!! It hurts my heart looking at such a beautiful site knowing I can't fly there. Here in the Netherlands one can only dream of such a site with that much space!
H.Rider: I fly as well with the Saito 82. I am interested in your pump setup. Concerning the covering: I probably do something wrong, but my Saito is really splatting around a lot of oil. Due to the clear covering I can see very well a lot of oil going under the covering at the exhaust side. I am thinking for this winter to rip the wingcovering and put Oracover on it instead. For the rest the covering is holding up fairly well. I did do a very thorough job with the hot iron beforehand though.
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H.Rider: I fly as well with the Saito 82. I am interested in your pump setup. Concerning the covering: I probably do something wrong, but my Saito is really splatting around a lot of oil. Due to the clear covering I can see very well a lot of oil going under the covering at the exhaust side. I am thinking for this winter to rip the wingcovering and put Oracover on it instead. For the rest the covering is holding up fairly well. I did do a very thorough job with the hot iron beforehand though.
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Read the whole thread. Geting an Inspire 60 next week. Sounds like I will love it. Will be running 6v. Just crashed my Reactor, my fault. Seems to me I could use my HS 225's(67 oz) in the ailerons and my Fut 3050's(90 oz) or my JR DS821's(88 oz) in elevator and rudder. MAYBE the rudder might need more and I have a Hobbico CS70(133 oz). Rudder can't need more than that. My reactor was fine with the 3050's all around and the Inspire is about same size and weight. Will be using my Saito 82 with Perry pump. Seems to me a HUGE jump from Fliton site recommended 5245's for moderate flying to 5945's (rudder and elevator) for advanced. Strikes me that a Saito 100 would be too much for this plane so not sure I get the Advanced recomendations on the Fliton site. Flying sport IMAC and trying to do 3D.
My Guess is the 225's(1.09 oz) for Ailerons, a DS 821(1.5 oz) for Elevator and Rudder OR the CS 70(1.9 oz) for rudder give all the power at the least weight for servos I already have. What do you think?
The reactor flew good but the covering was s***. I sealed seams with Acetone but missed a couple. Too much oil on the wood to fix the last fuse damage. Used packing tape to keep it together. Have stripped it in prep for the Inspire. I think I will seal and spray the Inspire before flying. Don't know how you would get covering to stick to oil soaked balsa.
Read the whole thread. Geting an Inspire 60 next week. Sounds like I will love it. Will be running 6v. Just crashed my Reactor, my fault. Seems to me I could use my HS 225's(67 oz) in the ailerons and my Fut 3050's(90 oz) or my JR DS821's(88 oz) in elevator and rudder. MAYBE the rudder might need more and I have a Hobbico CS70(133 oz). Rudder can't need more than that. My reactor was fine with the 3050's all around and the Inspire is about same size and weight. Will be using my Saito 82 with Perry pump. Seems to me a HUGE jump from Fliton site recommended 5245's for moderate flying to 5945's (rudder and elevator) for advanced. Strikes me that a Saito 100 would be too much for this plane so not sure I get the Advanced recomendations on the Fliton site. Flying sport IMAC and trying to do 3D.
My Guess is the 225's(1.09 oz) for Ailerons, a DS 821(1.5 oz) for Elevator and Rudder OR the CS 70(1.9 oz) for rudder give all the power at the least weight for servos I already have. What do you think?
The reactor flew good but the covering was s***. I sealed seams with Acetone but missed a couple. Too much oil on the wood to fix the last fuse damage. Used packing tape to keep it together. Have stripped it in prep for the Inspire. I think I will seal and spray the Inspire before flying. Don't know how you would get covering to stick to oil soaked balsa.
Also, I have a pumped 55AX in mine, it's awesome. My dad has a Reactor with a Saito 82 and the tank on the CG. He could never make it work well with a pump, so he took it off, and left the tank all the way back there. And you know what? It worked! It draws fuel that huge distance with no problems. You might not need a pump. I wouldn't have believed it if I hadn't seen it myself.
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Thanks for the info Cody. I have a Perry pump on mine but it doesn't to pump all that well. I mean it works, but the engine never seems to run as smooth as it should (Saito 82). I think I'll take the Perry off and run it without it.
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Wagen, in case you have not already done so, make sure you have a fuel line on the crankcase nipple to vent oil away from the plane. I had an exhaust extension on a previous plane and it helped a little. I think the oil actually wicks under the covering if there is any space at all. I am going to give a lot of attention to sealing the seams on the Inspire. Worst case, I have used narrow packing tape to seal seams. Adds weight though.
Cody, thanks for the input on the servos. I think I will not use the 225's so I do not have to modify the openings (laziness) and I did not know they did not center well. Will use the lightest standard types I have for the ailerons and the DS821's for the rudder and Elevator. I appreciate the feedback about no blowback with 80oz rudder servo. I have some experience but not enough to know for sure how much power is needed for the Inspire. One thing I know is that if you use a 1.5 inch servo arm you will get only 2/3rd's of the torque the servo has to offer, assuming you use a 1" control horn. If you go to a shorter control horn you will reduce the torque more. I used 1" arms and horns on my Reactor, set the ATV to max and felt I had plenty of throw and power with my Futaba 3050's. Same size and weight range for the Inspire so I thought it should work fine. Experience beats guessing though.
Cody, thanks for the input on the servos. I think I will not use the 225's so I do not have to modify the openings (laziness) and I did not know they did not center well. Will use the lightest standard types I have for the ailerons and the DS821's for the rudder and Elevator. I appreciate the feedback about no blowback with 80oz rudder servo. I have some experience but not enough to know for sure how much power is needed for the Inspire. One thing I know is that if you use a 1.5 inch servo arm you will get only 2/3rd's of the torque the servo has to offer, assuming you use a 1" control horn. If you go to a shorter control horn you will reduce the torque more. I used 1" arms and horns on my Reactor, set the ATV to max and felt I had plenty of throw and power with my Futaba 3050's. Same size and weight range for the Inspire so I thought it should work fine. Experience beats guessing though.
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Cody, thanks for the input on the servos. I think I will not use the 225's so I do not have to modify the openings (laziness) and I did not know they did not center well. Will use the lightest standard types I have for the ailerons and the DS821's for the rudder and Elevator. I appreciate the feedback about no blowback with 80oz rudder servo. I have some experience but not enough to know for sure how much power is needed for the Inspire. One thing I know is that if you use a 1.5 inch servo arm you will get only 2/3rd's of the torque the servo has to offer, assuming you use a 1" control horn. If you go to a shorter control horn you will reduce the torque more. I used 1" arms and horns on my Reactor, set the ATV to max and felt I had plenty of throw and power with my Futaba 3050's. Same size and weight range for the Inspire so I thought it should work fine. Experience beats guessing though.
Cody, thanks for the input on the servos. I think I will not use the 225's so I do not have to modify the openings (laziness) and I did not know they did not center well. Will use the lightest standard types I have for the ailerons and the DS821's for the rudder and Elevator. I appreciate the feedback about no blowback with 80oz rudder servo. I have some experience but not enough to know for sure how much power is needed for the Inspire. One thing I know is that if you use a 1.5 inch servo arm you will get only 2/3rd's of the torque the servo has to offer, assuming you use a 1" control horn. If you go to a shorter control horn you will reduce the torque more. I used 1" arms and horns on my Reactor, set the ATV to max and felt I had plenty of throw and power with my Futaba 3050's. Same size and weight range for the Inspire so I thought it should work fine. Experience beats guessing though.
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Yes, the geometry is what I was implying by speaking of both the Servo arm and the horn length. Of course, alignment of the arm and horn play into that also. The calculations are easy because you just use lever calculations which are linear, if my ANCIENT math has not let me down. Anything beyond that I leave to the experts.
The servo's all give the torque in oz/inch (as far as I know). If the servo arm and the control horn are both one inch, you get the torque to the controlled surface as specified by the servo. What I DON't know is if that is initial torque or average torque or whatever. I do think they mean stall torque so an 80 oz servo could not actually operate a surface that pushed back with 80oz of resistance. It would be interesting to know what the output torque is when the sevo operates at it's rated speed. From what I have read, the servo torque diminishes as it gets warmer. I do not have first hand knowledge of that.
Due to your previous help I see no reason now to expect the torque requirements for the Inspire to be much different from the Reactor. In the end, I am much more interested in flying it than talking about servos, although I enjoy the technical side of this a bit also and would enjoy earing from someone who knows more than me (easy). I did not experience any blowback or sluggishness on my Reactor and you did not on the Inspire so 80 oz should do the trick. I have 133 oz available if it doesn't.
My Inspire arrives next week if all goes as planned.
The servo's all give the torque in oz/inch (as far as I know). If the servo arm and the control horn are both one inch, you get the torque to the controlled surface as specified by the servo. What I DON't know is if that is initial torque or average torque or whatever. I do think they mean stall torque so an 80 oz servo could not actually operate a surface that pushed back with 80oz of resistance. It would be interesting to know what the output torque is when the sevo operates at it's rated speed. From what I have read, the servo torque diminishes as it gets warmer. I do not have first hand knowledge of that.
Due to your previous help I see no reason now to expect the torque requirements for the Inspire to be much different from the Reactor. In the end, I am much more interested in flying it than talking about servos, although I enjoy the technical side of this a bit also and would enjoy earing from someone who knows more than me (easy). I did not experience any blowback or sluggishness on my Reactor and you did not on the Inspire so 80 oz should do the trick. I have 133 oz available if it doesn't.
My Inspire arrives next week if all goes as planned.
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Yes, the geometry is what I was implying by speaking of both the Servo arm and the horn length. Of course, alignment of the arm and horn play into that also. The calculations are easy because you just use lever calculations which are linear, if my ANCIENT math has not let me down. Anything beyond that I leave to the experts.
Due to your previous help I see no reason now to expect the torque requirements for the Inspire to be much different from the Reactor. In the end, I am much more interested in flying it than talking about servos, although I enjoy the technical side of this a bit also and would enjoy earing from someone who knows more than me (easy). I did not experience any blowback or sluggishness on my Reactor and you did not on the Inspire so 80 oz should do the trick. I have 133 oz available if it doesn't.
My Inspire arrives next week if all goes as planned.
Yes, the geometry is what I was implying by speaking of both the Servo arm and the horn length. Of course, alignment of the arm and horn play into that also. The calculations are easy because you just use lever calculations which are linear, if my ANCIENT math has not let me down. Anything beyond that I leave to the experts.
Due to your previous help I see no reason now to expect the torque requirements for the Inspire to be much different from the Reactor. In the end, I am much more interested in flying it than talking about servos, although I enjoy the technical side of this a bit also and would enjoy earing from someone who knows more than me (easy). I did not experience any blowback or sluggishness on my Reactor and you did not on the Inspire so 80 oz should do the trick. I have 133 oz available if it doesn't.
My Inspire arrives next week if all goes as planned.
I got a nice video of it this summer with the 55AX:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...43391760095998
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matching colors
I dinged a wing. Want to recover in better covering, yet match the orange. The purple Ultracote matches. Is the orange flouresent Ultracote? It seemed too bright, but everything else is too dull.
I dinged a wing. Want to recover in better covering, yet match the orange. The purple Ultracote matches. Is the orange flouresent Ultracote? It seemed too bright, but everything else is too dull.
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If you can't match the orange, maybe you could remove all the orange and use the Ultracote flourescent orange in it's place. My Ultracote Silver and white seem to match. I was told the covering was Ultracote but I am not sure about that.
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how much extra power does the inspire have with a saito 82? i live at 6500 feet and would like enough power to get me out of trouble well. as well as hover low without power worries. i have a saito 91 and 82. my 82 will swing a 14x6 all day and the 91 will swing a 15x6 without missing a beat on magnum #1. and what does the 82 inspires weigh?
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The Saito 82 is plenty for anything with the Inspire 60. I got to fly one last weekend, it wasnt set up for 3-D ( elev travel was only about 30%) but it still would harrier with the right throttle setting. This plane had a wing tube failure but landed with minor damage. The owner installed wood in the center section of a new tube & is still flying it. Man, are they light, fly straight & true, I'm thinking of one with a .90 2- stroker! I had to dead stick on the very first flight, no problem at all, it penetrates so well, just keeps on going & going! Good god, the KE is perfect, its looks to be worth the extra $$$!
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Hey, now it is for most wintertime. I am planning on doing some rework on the Inspire, new hardware for the linkages (I didnot like them from the beginning), a solution for the engine exhaust (now there is too much oil on the plane) and new covering for wings and stabilizer.
Maybe some others are planning this as well. Let's share our work!
Maybe some others are planning this as well. Let's share our work!