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Old 06-08-2007 | 09:48 PM
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I have been flying for roughly little over year and a half,i started with a spad and now flying a big stik 40 GP,I am look for my next all alround #d capable plane and looking at these two planes,i like to run 2 strokes personally,cost mainly,so looking fo r feeedback on which plane would be better for me thanks for any help you can give.
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Of those two planes, I would say the U-Can-Do with an SK 2 stroke (50 or 70). That will give you good performance with low cost.

Are they the only two planes you are considering?
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Just like looks and what ive read on them what else would u consider ?
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If you're looking at seriously doing 3d, go for a profile. they may look weird to those that have never flown one (I used to despise them - until I flew one) but they are great for 3d and damned near indestructible.

Two of the best I have found to date are:
MoJo (available as an ARF from Billy Hell RC or as a kit from Paul Swany)
OMP Katana
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Well to be honest may not be totally up to par with skills for 3d but want to be able to when ready so allaround flyer i guess
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I have flown both. Well, I had the ST .90 and the UCD .46. I flew the ST .90 with a Saito 1.25 and the UCD .46 with a Saito .82.

By far the better of the two for me was the ST...period. It will do anything you want to do. 3D, pattern, IMAC practice...whatever you want. I recommend the ST .50 even though I have never flown the .50 size. I guess a Saito .82 with a 14X4 APC prop would do well for 3D on that plane.

I found, (please do not kill me for this,UCD fans), that the UCD was draggy, floaty, sloppy and stick-like. I liked the ST because is was a true flyer and was not designed to be a hover machine. The ST does far better rolling maneuvers and is VERY agile. The UCD is great at slow maneuvers because of it's enormous lift, but the cost is drag....too much drag for my taste.

The ST excels in almost every category. Durability, KE, Hover, Rolling maneuvers etc... JUST REMEMBER that type of plane needs WAAAY more than recommended throw to perform well. You will need 'way too much' power, 'way too much' throw, 'way too much' servo power and 'way too much' expo to fly this plane to it's potential. OH...and you will need fast servos too.

Properly set-up, the ST will give you far more and better practice if you are planning on moving to Giant Scale aerobats in the future. The UCD will do LOTS of stuff, but it's just not realistic practice for the bigger planes.

OK, UCD fans....let the flogging begin.

SIR, may I have another, SIR!!
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Default RE: Showtime 50 or U Can Do 46

Having Read Cameron724's last post I would tend to agree with agexpert's views on the ST being a better all rounder. I too have had both machines. I only suggested the UCD because the original post asked specifically about 3d in a 3d forum. But for an all round flyer that can also do most 3d, the later versions of the ST are good machines. The only negative I would say about the ST is they tend to snap roll quite easily. I also agree with the views on having "Way too much" of everything. I would still go for the SK70 as an engine choice - they are a 2 stroke that is cheap but they run very much like a 4 stroke and will spin quite large props for their size.
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It really does depend on what you want to do with it. I think the UCD is a perfect choice for a first 'aerobatic plane'. The ST is just a more solid and realistic flyer, IMHO.

As usual, I ignored the poster's needs and went straight into full-blown 'review-mode'.
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Default RE: Showtime 50 or U Can Do 46

So then cameron724, have agexpert and I totally confused you now? (I know I am)[].

In a nutshell,
If you want the 3d ability to be the major factor - go for the UCD.
If you want a good all rounder that can do most 3d - Go for the Showtime.

Now that you understand it - please explain it to me
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Now I know why I have a hard time teaching....and why my wife's cat pretty much just ignores me these days.

Oh well, get a kite. They are cheaper, easier to fly, and less confusing.
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Yep
I've never been able to teach my cat anything - and my wife has always ignored me
Old 06-09-2007 | 08:40 AM
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I like what i hear about the ST 50,the only thing is the snapping ,still fairly new to sprt and havent had a plane yet that has that problem,but will continue to read and gain advice from u guys,
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Default RE: Showtime 50 or U Can Do 46

Like was said earlier I would steer you toward a profile. A Fusion from OMP will out perform the other two mentioned and is easier to handle IMHO. I have not flow a ST50 but have flown a ST90. I am not a huge fan of it. It is a very stable flier and the tracking and knife edge are great. It is just not great at 3D. The UCD also has it's pluses and minuses. A lot of which depends on your style of flying. I like the fusion so much because it is easy to make you look good. It's not as pretty being a profile. But I think it would be a good next step for you. It will aslo get you ready for a Edge or Yak or Cap or whatever you go to from here.

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