U-CAN-DO 60 + O.S. 120 AX - Will work?
07-09-2007 | 05:31 PM
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U-CAN-DO 60 + O.S. 120 AX - Will work?
Somebody have expercience with this combo or have a configuration seemed?
An O.S. 120 AX looks like a good choice for this bird...
An O.S. 120 AX looks like a good choice for this bird...
07-09-2007 | 09:45 PM
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I tried it once, too much power. I found myself more concerned about keeping the throttle down rather enjoying the plane while flying. I just went back to my OS .91 FX, then saved the 1.20 AX for my Funtana.
07-10-2007 | 12:22 AM
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RE: U-CAN-DO 60 + O.S. 120 AX - Will work?
I have a mighty 110 in mine. One of my favorite planes. I think the 120AX would work nicely also. 16x6 or 17x4 prop would be the ticket. This is one of my favorite planes. I love the UCDs. The are wonderful. One of only 2 or 3 planes I've ever seen that will do a rising inverted flat spin. It wouldn't do it with the Saito 100 in it but does them with the YS. I think the extra power is really worth it. Also helps a great deal with waterfalls. Thanks
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07-10-2007 | 06:50 AM
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RE: U-CAN-DO 60 + O.S. 120 AX - Will work?
Hi everybody. Thanks for the aswers.
I have two 120 AX. One I get brand new and one a friend sold me for a good price.
I installed one in my Funtana X 100 (Planeclothes helped me with this in another tread), but I have to confess I dont't liked this combo very much. The 120 AX don't pulls the FX with the authority I hope.
I want a 3D plataform for training with a great power to help me get out of troubles
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If the UCD 60 flys ligth yet with the 120 AX, maybe I will try...
I just don't wat a 3D plane with heavy engine, like I said in another thread. I have a Showtime powered by an O.S. 160 FX. It's great, but I have some snap problems.
Thank you guys..
I have two 120 AX. One I get brand new and one a friend sold me for a good price.
I installed one in my Funtana X 100 (Planeclothes helped me with this in another tread), but I have to confess I dont't liked this combo very much. The 120 AX don't pulls the FX with the authority I hope.
I want a 3D plataform for training with a great power to help me get out of troubles
.If the UCD 60 flys ligth yet with the 120 AX, maybe I will try...
I just don't wat a 3D plane with heavy engine, like I said in another thread. I have a Showtime powered by an O.S. 160 FX. It's great, but I have some snap problems.
Thank you guys..
07-10-2007 | 07:53 AM
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RE: U-CAN-DO 60 + O.S. 120 AX - Will work?
I doubt you'll get a Do with OS 1.20 any lighter than a Funtana X100 & same engine. You'll probably be around 8 to 8.5 lbs with that combo, my X100 & OS 120 was around 8.3 lbs. My Do (.60) with OS 1.08 is 8.25 lbs & a real good combo, the pull out is just enough. Same with my X100, the pull out was acceptable, not rocket. You dont need rocket vertical thrust to get out of trouble, what you need to do is get a lot of practice "flying" out of hovers. Even if you can harrier out of hover, thats good too. You want to be able to come out of hovers in any attitude, once you are comfortable with that, thrust will seem less important. In fact, its cool to transition from hover to HA KE, make a point of coming out inverted too, then the transition will become second nature.
07-10-2007 | 08:43 PM
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RE: U-CAN-DO 60 + O.S. 120 AX - Will work?
MIXMASTER, you are right. I need to pratice a little more to get more confiance and forget the super power .
But, anyway, I'll need a home for my other 120 AX and a UCD .60 seemed a good idea [&:].
Thank you guys.
.But, anyway, I'll need a home for my other 120 AX and a UCD .60 seemed a good idea [&:].
Thank you guys.
07-11-2007 | 09:50 AM
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RE: U-CAN-DO 60 + O.S. 120 AX - Will work?
I think that would be an excellent combo, my X100/OS1.20 AX was about 8.25 lbs & pullout was good. I'm finding the engines really lose power in the heat of summer, I mean a lot is lost & hovering is the worst you can do to an engine, you get minimal air flow & the highest load on the engine.
07-11-2007 | 01:43 PM
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RE: U-CAN-DO 60 + O.S. 120 AX - Will work?
Ok. I am thinking about to try. I will post here pics of my assembly, if I get one UCD .60.
But I don't know nothing about the flying of this bird. How it do KE? I don't liked the KE flying of Funtana. I have to correct a lot to make a good fly line with it. Maybe is UCD more precise?
I am very, very worried about the inverted harrier too. Will UCD do good inverted harries with this engine? I ask that, because of my Showtime. Whit a heavy engine, my inverted harries turned inverted flat spin. Will 120 AX do that whit UCD or not?
Whit this aswers, I will stop to boring you guys !!!!!
Thank you!!
But I don't know nothing about the flying of this bird. How it do KE? I don't liked the KE flying of Funtana. I have to correct a lot to make a good fly line with it. Maybe is UCD more precise?
I am very, very worried about the inverted harrier too. Will UCD do good inverted harries with this engine? I ask that, because of my Showtime. Whit a heavy engine, my inverted harries turned inverted flat spin. Will 120 AX do that whit UCD or not?
Whit this aswers, I will stop to boring you guys
!!!!!Thank you!!
07-11-2007 | 02:04 PM
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RE: U-CAN-DO 60 + O.S. 120 AX - Will work?
A U Can Do is not a precision flying plane, its noted for how slow it can go and 3-D . Its not at the top of the list, but its probably the cheapest fun. It does knife edge well, even knife edge loops are possible with the right set-up(CG for one)but, it does couple pretty bad so you will have to deal with it one way or another(thumbs or mixing). However, once you deal with it, it will hold knife edge as long as you can and the Do does great S-L-O-W High Alpha knife edge too, probably the best thing about it, except for hovering. As for inverted harriers, I am just beginning to do this and dont have a lot of experience. I have noticed the Do seems to require less throttle or it will nose up and you have to hold in certain amount of left rudder to keep it from spinning. Dont forget, right thrust up-right, becomes left thrust while inverted and since the torque/prop tends to pull left, its worse inverted, so you have to compensate with constant left rudder, except when you are turning right of course. That has been my 2 biggest problems with inverted harriers, with any plane.
07-16-2007 | 05:24 PM
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RE: U-CAN-DO 60 + O.S. 120 AX - Will work?
Well, well, well... Good news.
My U-Can-Do arrived today and I had a good surprise with it. It's a good plane. Very ligth and well done. I have a bad conception of planes from Great Planes for 3D flying, but this one is really good.
So, I am starting my project U-CAN-DO 60 + O.S. 120 AX now.
The 120 AX fits nicely in this plane. I have yet 1 or 2 mm on each side of firewall and this is good. I was thinkig to give up of 120 AX and install my 160 FX on this plane. Just kidding!!!!!!
Here comes some pics of 120 of firewall. I will post here pics of my project step by step for who to interest.
Thank you guys.
Eduardo
My U-Can-Do arrived today and I had a good surprise with it. It's a good plane. Very ligth and well done. I have a bad conception of planes from Great Planes for 3D flying, but this one is really good.
So, I am starting my project U-CAN-DO 60 + O.S. 120 AX now.
The 120 AX fits nicely in this plane. I have yet 1 or 2 mm on each side of firewall and this is good. I was thinkig to give up of 120 AX and install my 160 FX on this plane.
Just kidding!!!!!!Here comes some pics of 120 of firewall. I will post here pics of my project step by step for who to interest.
Thank you guys.
Eduardo
07-17-2007 | 09:32 AM
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RE: U-CAN-DO 60 + O.S. 120 AX - Will work?
The U CAN DO 3D 60 + OS120AX should be a very goog combo. I run mine DO with a Saito 125 which also is a very good and lightweighted engine for this plane.
07-17-2007 | 09:46 AM
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RE: U-CAN-DO 60 + O.S. 120 AX - Will work?
MIXMASTER, I don't know which weight yet. Gimme some days and I will take the numbers to post here.
Flyer95, great combo you have in hands. I don't have none, but I love 4 strokes. I hope to get one soon.
Thank you, guys!!
Eduardo
Flyer95, great combo you have in hands. I don't have none, but I love 4 strokes. I hope to get one soon.
Thank you, guys!!
Eduardo
07-17-2007 | 11:53 AM
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RE: U-CAN-DO 60 + O.S. 120 AX - Will work?
My UCD with mighty 110 is 7lbs 12ozs. My guess is you'll be slightly heavier than that. But 8.5lbs sould be easily done.Good luck.
Thanks
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07-17-2007 | 12:10 PM
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RE: U-CAN-DO 60 + O.S. 120 AX - Will work?
ORIGINAL: MIXMASTER
A U Can Do is not a precision flying plane, its noted for how slow it can go and 3-D . Its not at the top of the list, but its probably the cheapest fun. It does knife edge well, even knife edge loops are possible with the right set-up(CG for one)but, it does couple pretty bad so you will have to deal with it one way or another(thumbs or mixing). However, once you deal with it, it will hold knife edge as long as you can and the Do does great S-L-O-W High Alpha knife edge too, probably the best thing about it, except for hovering. As for inverted harriers, I am just beginning to do this and dont have a lot of experience. I have noticed the Do seems to require less throttle or it will nose up and you have to hold in certain amount of left rudder to keep it from spinning. Dont forget, right thrust up-right, becomes left thrust while inverted and since the torque/prop tends to pull left, its worse inverted, so you have to compensate with constant left rudder, except when you are turning right of course. That has been my 2 biggest problems with inverted harriers, with any plane.
A U Can Do is not a precision flying plane, its noted for how slow it can go and 3-D . Its not at the top of the list, but its probably the cheapest fun. It does knife edge well, even knife edge loops are possible with the right set-up(CG for one)but, it does couple pretty bad so you will have to deal with it one way or another(thumbs or mixing). However, once you deal with it, it will hold knife edge as long as you can and the Do does great S-L-O-W High Alpha knife edge too, probably the best thing about it, except for hovering. As for inverted harriers, I am just beginning to do this and dont have a lot of experience. I have noticed the Do seems to require less throttle or it will nose up and you have to hold in certain amount of left rudder to keep it from spinning. Dont forget, right thrust up-right, becomes left thrust while inverted and since the torque/prop tends to pull left, its worse inverted, so you have to compensate with constant left rudder, except when you are turning right of course. That has been my 2 biggest problems with inverted harriers, with any plane.
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RE: U-CAN-DO 60 + O.S. 120 AX - Will work?
Hey, can somebody send me numbers of aileron control throws. I don't uderstand the manual measurements.
It says ailerons: 2-1/8" [55mm] up and down. But 55mm from where?
So I tried to config the throws based on my experience with others aircraft and set it to 45º up down for ailerons, but the gap between the wing and the aileron become too huge (3mm, at least).
So please, can somebody tell me good ailerons throws for 3D. Please, in degrees, if possible!!
My aileron hinges is not glued yet.
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It says ailerons: 2-1/8" [55mm] up and down. But 55mm from where?
So I tried to config the throws based on my experience with others aircraft and set it to 45º up down for ailerons, but the gap between the wing and the aileron become too huge (3mm, at least).
So please, can somebody tell me good ailerons throws for 3D. Please, in degrees, if possible!!
My aileron hinges is not glued yet.
Thank you.
07-18-2007 | 08:18 AM
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RE: U-CAN-DO 60 + O.S. 120 AX - Will work?
Cover & glue tri stock to the trailing edges of the wings before you hinge. You will get all the travel you need & then some. It really helps to harrier this plane if you use spoileron mixed with elevator, the extra travel gained will allow full up spoilerons with up-elevator and still have more travel available for any roll control needed. Until I did this, none of my Do's would lock into harriers for long.
Broke n bummin: I am the master of slow HA KE with the Do, I use spoileron mix for turning, its sort of like all wheel steering in a car, it makes the sharpest turns this way, have absolute positive control, almost 90 deg. turns. Not sure if inverted harriers would be easier with a gyro, I bet a rudder mix would help once you find the right setting.
Broke n bummin: I am the master of slow HA KE with the Do, I use spoileron mix for turning, its sort of like all wheel steering in a car, it makes the sharpest turns this way, have absolute positive control, almost 90 deg. turns. Not sure if inverted harriers would be easier with a gyro, I bet a rudder mix would help once you find the right setting.
07-19-2007 | 05:23 PM
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RE: U-CAN-DO 60 + O.S. 120 AX - Will work?
Here is my engine, fuel tank, throttle linkage and pump work.
I cuted off the horizontal wood of this parts of fuselage (see the pics. I don't know tha name of this parts in english) to install the tank.
Everything is fine in the end, I think. This plane is more easy to install the tank on CG than Funtana X, even with this thin fuse.
Tell me what you think, guys.
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Eduardo
I cuted off the horizontal wood of this parts of fuselage (see the pics. I don't know tha name of this parts in english) to install the tank.
Everything is fine in the end, I think. This plane is more easy to install the tank on CG than Funtana X, even with this thin fuse.
Tell me what you think, guys.
Thanks.
Eduardo
07-20-2007 | 08:59 AM
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RE: U-CAN-DO 60 + O.S. 120 AX - Will work?
Looks tight but very neat & efficient. I have my fuel tank in exactly the same spot, right on CG which works well, I mounted a small HS81 mini servo for throttle under the nose of the plane,( the sloped part), the push rod is only about 4 ", just one or 2 bends to clear engine/muffler. I have been mounting the wing saddle tape on the wing rather than the saddle area, it seems to stay on forever this way, I do have to cut covering from the wing but its easy with a soldering iron. Enjoy the Do, report back on the maiden.
07-20-2007 | 11:09 AM
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RE: U-CAN-DO 60 + O.S. 120 AX - Will work?
Hi MIXMASTER. Thank you for the nice words. I was thinking to install my throttle servo in the same place like you said, but my engine is more heavy, so I forgot it.
Please, if you can, post some pics of your Do config. It should be very good!!!
I will report back the maiden!! I am plannig to fly it tomorrow, but I am in troubles do get good push rods for this plane. I am changing the stocks for 4-40, but here in Brazil I can't find the carbon rods. Import from USA will take too long. The only I found to help me now is Dubro Threaded Rod 4-40 12", but is too hard to make bolts (I don't know the name in english, but I mean the part of the rod where we install the clevis) in it, that have the bolts in one side only.
But I will try to fix it. Tomorrow is Saturday and I just have this afternoon to finish my plane to fly this week.
Let me try!!!
Thank you.
Eduardo.
Please, if you can, post some pics of your Do config. It should be very good!!!
I will report back the maiden!! I am plannig to fly it tomorrow, but I am in troubles do get good push rods for this plane. I am changing the stocks for 4-40, but here in Brazil I can't find the carbon rods. Import from USA will take too long. The only I found to help me now is Dubro Threaded Rod 4-40 12", but is too hard to make bolts (I don't know the name in english, but I mean the part of the rod where we install the clevis) in it, that have the bolts in one side only.
But I will try to fix it. Tomorrow is Saturday and I just have this afternoon to finish my plane to fly this week.
Let me try!!!
Thank you.
Eduardo.
07-20-2007 | 12:41 PM
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RE: U-CAN-DO 60 + O.S. 120 AX - Will work?
My Do is getting old & oily but I will try to get some pics posted, I'm flying this weekend too, the temp is only around 80, low humidity, good for hovering & huckin.
07-23-2007 | 10:57 AM
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RE: U-CAN-DO 60 + O.S. 120 AX - Will work?
Well, my friends, I have bad news.
I maiden my UCD this weekend, but I crash it in the first time. I tested the RC system before fly, but when I took-off, I got a huge interference.
I don't lost the control completly, but my plane become very hard to fly. I tried to landing, but I couldn't arrive on track.
I landend on a terrain with a lot rocks and I my horizontal stabilizer is history.
Just the horizontal stabilizer is broken. Tower sells the Tail Set for this plane, but I glued the first stabilizer [:@] (I don't had any reasons to make it removable. Now I have [&:])...
I am try to get off the crashed stabilizer without ruin my plane to order another one from Tower, but, anyway, the importation will take one month, at least.
So, my fly report to say if 120 works in this plane will be late.
Sorry, guys.
More news coming, I hope!!
I maiden my UCD this weekend, but I crash it in the first time. I tested the RC system before fly, but when I took-off, I got a huge interference.
I don't lost the control completly, but my plane become very hard to fly. I tried to landing, but I couldn't arrive on track.
I landend on a terrain with a lot rocks and I my horizontal stabilizer is history.
Just the horizontal stabilizer is broken. Tower sells the Tail Set for this plane, but I glued the first stabilizer [:@] (I don't had any reasons to make it removable. Now I have [&:])...
I am try to get off the crashed stabilizer without ruin my plane to order another one from Tower, but, anyway, the importation will take one month, at least.
So, my fly report to say if 120 works in this plane will be late.
Sorry, guys.
More news coming, I hope!!
