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Old 07-22-2007 | 01:30 PM
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Am just about ready to start flying my new PA Electric Shock, but have been practicing my torque rolling on AeroFly Pro before I pratice with something breakable!

Should I be constantly revving the engine to try and maintain height and position or should the throttle stay the same throughout the manoeuvre?

Maybe there is no perfect way, I just want it to be easier!!


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Old 07-22-2007 | 07:58 PM
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With an electric you should be able to find a throttle setting where the plane wil just hang there without needing constant correction (it will be a LOT less than a gas or glow plane!).
Old 07-22-2007 | 10:14 PM
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With an electric you should be able to find a throttle setting where the plane wil just hang there without needing constant correction (it will be a LOT less than a gas or glow plane!).

You might,
Hovering is not really something that you can teach, its just something that you have to do. More than likely you will be neaturally moving the throttle around to keep it where you want it. Something I can tell you is thatwhen youa re hovering, unless you are bailing out, try to keep your throttle movements as small as possible. That goes for control inputs too. The thing that most people do when trying to learn to hover is OVER correct. Just move the throttle 1 click at a time and try to keep the elevator and rudder sticks as small as possible. The more its waggling the more you are going to have to chase it and since most of the waggling comes from you, help yourself out and stay still. The trick is to watch the plane and get ahead of it.. Correct BEFORE the plane gets out of whack. If you can get slightly ahead of the plane you can make very tiny corrections and the plane will just sit there. Watch a video of a pro and you will see, once they settle into a hover unless they want to move the plane around they will just sit there and watch and sometimes go several seconds without moving a thing.
Old 07-22-2007 | 10:41 PM
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Exactly what Mike says, and after all that....practice, practice and practice some more.

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Old 07-22-2007 | 10:55 PM
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I can TR a foamie, but with my gassers, I can make it only about 3/4 around.

If you are stable in a hover, TR's will not likely cause you to damage your plane....becauuuse....all of the 'bail-out' practice you have from countless hours of hovering will kick-in if the thing falls out.

TR's happen naturally if the plane is locked in. We spend a lot of time banging ailerons to keep it from happening when we don't want it.

I need more practice.
Old 07-23-2007 | 01:48 AM
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Speaking as a relative "oldie" I personally find it very difficult to hover and torque roll using constant throttle and fare much better with minute blips. Some of my younger club mates use constant throttle though, and it works for them.
Old 07-23-2007 | 01:53 PM
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The magazine section is a wealth of information

http://www.rcuniverse.com/magazine/a...article_id=453
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http://www.rcuniverse.com/magazine/a...article_id=238
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I accompany every correction with a blip of throttle - I have MUCH better control that way. Also, when the belly is facing you, fly the tail. That way, you will naturally input the correct control direction. Every failed attempt I see is the result of falling out of the hover due to the wrong inputs as soon as the belly faces them. After a while, the correct inputs become a natural reaction.
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I accompany every correction with a blip of throttle - I have MUCH better control that way. Also, when the belly is facing you, fly the tail. That way, you will naturally input the correct control direction. Every failed attempt I see is the result of falling out of the hover due to the wrong inputs as soon as the belly faces them. After a while, the correct inputs become a natural reaction.
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For me, torque rolling is the most exhilerating,puckering,heart thumping thing to do, especially when down on the deck. I've never used a sim or electrics, but with glow I'm always on the throttle, almost never stays put for long. Its as necessary as any surface movement for control. The thing about TR'ing, it can come on suddenly and you have to struggle to catch up, especially when its just starting to fall a little. You dont always know how fast its going to roll, thats the exciting part for me. After some time you can stop it from TR'ing with right aileron, that adds another dimension to it. The giant scale guys around here rarely TR when they hover, they use aileron to stop it, I can do that too, but when its breezy, it makes it pretty hard to stop TR.
Old 07-24-2007 | 09:58 AM
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Thanks for the tip on Windows Movie Maker, I tried it and its easy to use, free, and has some nice effects. I love how you can split clips, then use the handles to trim out unwanted moments, I had a 71MB vid that ended up only 17MB, very cool stuff.
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Yeah, torque rolling DOD with a GS plane is what separates the men from the boys. I personally wont do it unless I am about 10' high... . There is just a fear of screwing up when the tail is just off the ground that I do not have at ~10', get it down low and let it start to TR and my heart starts to race uncontrollably. The adrenaline makes it hard to concetrate, therefore I just bring it down and hover it without torque roll. For some reason that is comforatable for me. Give me a foamy or a profile and I can TR with the tail hovering just above the grass,,, weird.


Glad to see you are getting some use of WMM. I just learned something new. If you want to make credits that are more customized than WMM is capable of, then make the credit in Photoshop or any draw program and then save it as a .jpg. Then just import the picture into WMM and put it where you want it. That way you can have really artsy credits instead of the simple blue background stuff that WMM offers. Stuff like the attached graphic is just the beginning. Really the sky is the limit if you use an external art software program.
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Old 07-25-2007 | 10:04 PM
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I think you all need to stop with this wack electric talk and grow some and buy a gas engine, or are yall married to some tree huggin hippies?

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