Yes indeed seems Im not the only noticing this issues I really dont see anywhere for rubberbands nor rubberbands included for that fact. Anyone know?

If yer going glow, the wood plate holds the tank in anyway. Piss on the phantom rubber bands.
Does your engine look like it is tilted up just a tad?


Ron

Motor looks level to me. Its a Tower Hobbies .46.

Yea, mine looks like it is tipped up a 1/2 or 1 degree.


Ron

Anyone have a magnum 4 stroke in there plane?

I am gonna try to ask another question..Has anyone ran into a problem with the screws that hold the motor mount on too long?Also did anyone put any kind of pilot in there bird?

I cut the screws off, and no pilot.... What would he do anyway, the planes RC. LOL


Ron

JDK, I'm using the Magnum 70 four stroke. Plane flies so-so. Not the most versatile plane I've ever owned, wouldn't own another one, but the Magnum has plenty of power.

And one other thing ALL of you that are complaing about "no rubberbands" to hold the tank in place. Pack foam around it and forget about it! Next thing you'll want radial treads on the wheels....YEESH!

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Tell ya what, they could sure get rid of those heavy azz wheels an tires an put the foamies on it, I did......


Ron

Well, I've wanted one of these since I first saw it online. I finally found a slightly damaged one on eBAY and invested $60. on it.

Other than 3 crushed ribs, (easily repaired) and a little replacement covering the Tango should be as good as new.

I'm curious about comments made regarding the planes performance. I would think that a smaller airframe like this would be a "hack" flyer...something to toss into the trunk and have fun with...not serious aerobatics and the like.

It's nice to have something inexpensive, fairly nice looking and easy to whip around other than more sophisticated designs involving more inve$tment. I can live with all the neg's mentioned as I have other aircraft that DO perform the way I want them to. Expectations there are naturally, quite different.

I see the Tango for what I can get from it, (fun) not what the marketing department at Hanger 9 might extol it to be. Guess that would be nice though, huh?

I usually tinker, modify, adapt and recover ARF's...but not this one. I was looking for a fun plane and I think I've found it. I'll let y'all know.

Ed, might be a great review subject in an upcoming RCR!

PM

i have fun with mine and no rubber bands i used some foam in there to hold he tank

Hey Pt Mugu, the wife got me a Tango and a second OS .55AX for Christmas, so it will be in my column soon. I plan on wringing it out and also fixing the roll due to rudder.

Before that I have a JBA .56 and a Goldberg Wild Stik that I just started flying.

I also just finished an Ultra Stick 60/SK 90 to replace the one I snapped the whole tail off of. It wasn't pretty. Came down on hard surface and splattered. All I could do was throttle back and watch.

This weekend I'll be testing a Lanier Stinger 40/Saito .72. The Stinger was only $80 at Tower-too good to pass up. I think it'll need bigger ailerons-3/4" is pretty small.

SUPER! The 55AX looks to be a sweet engine. I have an Ultra Stick 60 with a ST 90 haulin' it around.

I have an SK50 NIB that I was considering mounting on the Tango. Since it's a long stroke, I figure the torque to be a better way to go than pure rpm's. What do you think?

Here's a shot of my US60. I recovered it as I really hate stock ARF finishes, lol...

PM

What servos are you guys using in the wings?

Ok. I've read the on and on's about the Tango. I've read complaints about no rubber bands to hold the fuel tank in place, read whines about the tires, moans about the tail wheel, but nothing really saying HOW the plane flies. First, don't expect a 3D plane. It ain't one. Don't expect a trainer, ain't that either. Don't expect a fun fly champion, it's not. Don't expect pattern type performance. Expect basically a "go to hell" plane that I really can't say what to expect next! First, balance it around 3" behind the leading edge. Preferably, use a 4 stroke engine. Magnum 70 or OS 70 is MORE than enough power. Put as much elevator throw in it as you can get, enough aileron throw to scare you, and the max rudder throw you can get out of it. Take off and honestly, don't worry. It's not as sensitive as you might think it would be. Exponential? Do as you will. I won't go into that. Low rates till you get used to it? Fine. You won't keep them there long! Would you believe a flat spin with NO elevator input? Try a snap roll. Weirdest thing I've ever seen! Just take the thing and FLY IT! Forget what Hangar 9 calls it. You bought it so it's YOUR airplane. SO FLY the damn thing and quit trying to make it something it isn't! Fly it for what it IS and what YOU make it!

And oh yeah, what I just posted shoots me in the foot on what I previously said about this plane, but after finally breaking down and deciding to pull the stops out, this thing IS a barrell of fun. Don't be scared of it. You might surprise yourself with what it can (and can't) do!

It took me a while for RXRCER's post to sink in, but it does make sense. I have a couple Slow Pokes that are almost the same way, they can be a little unpredictable. Both, however, are fun to fly and for people to watch. I don't think the Tango will be an exception. This one should float, and be quite a bit easier to manage compared to the other two mentioned. Last I checked, the Tangos are sold out and on back order. Hangar-9 must have done something right.

NorfolkSouthern

I test flew my Tango today. OS .55AX, 12-4 APC, 10% Omega castor blend, JR 9303, PCM receiver, all digital servos (except throttle). I am trying some new Bluebird, low profile, digitals and were reasonably priced locally. They seem to work OK.

I normally set my JR 9303 for 3 flight modes: 0=low rates with flaperons, 1=high rates on all 3 controls, 2=high rates with landing spoilers. High rates are 45 degrees travel.

Take off was excellent. We a hard surface Navy runway on weekends. The tail came up quickly and it tracks straight. Lifts off pretty quickly. It has a really thick wing so lift isn't any problem.

-In the air, it flies like a Stick. It didn't seem very sensitive, but I use 75% exponential on ailerons and 50% on the other 2 so mine it pretty soft around the center.
-Rolls are pretty fast. I have flown faster, but not much.
-Loops are tight on low rate with flaperons. On high rate, full back stick causes a slow snap out that makes the loop look like an Immelmann. It's not out of control, just stalling.
-Full rudder on high rate causes a fairly tight roll with a little pitch down so when you complete the roll, you are in a slight dive. I had not expected a pitch down with this plane. In the future, I'll add lower end plates to kill the roll and mix out the pitch. I'll let you know how that comes out.
-It does all kinds of spins. Upright flat spins are good, but you can get in too much opposite aileron and kick the plane out. Inverted flat spins are harder. Other types of spins are very fast.
-Landings are easy. You can control the descent with a click or two of power. I tried both with and without spoilers and both are OK. We had a little wing come up, maybe 10 mph. I was able to walk it down with power easily.

The tail section was just bolted on and after 2 flights it is still tight. I'll keep an eye on it.

One thing, I did replace the aluminum gear with a DuBro fiberglass gear, same wheels.

Bottom line: It's a fun little airplane. No bad habits really. Easy to fly and does a lot of stuff. The wife got me this combo (Tango & OS 55) for Christmas, so I can truthfully tell her it was a great flying present.

Ed,

Very, very nice. Always enjoy your informative remarks regarding a plane's potential.

I'm still finishing up my Super Stinker but took a few moments this evening to actually look at the damage to the wing on my Tango.

I shook the wing and heard too much rattle-rattle so I peeled the bottom covering off. Hmmm. Not much in the way of woodwork here, LOL.

Here's a few photos. rather than attempt to recut exact replacements, I'm simply going to patch the existing ribs, apply some bracing to them and recover in white.

I got a great deal on 1 meter rolls of brilliant white from Sig. I like Ultracote as my primary covering choice but Aerokote is a very close second!

What do you think about an OS FS40 on this bird? I realize it a smaller displacement but speed here for me isn't as important as torque. I still have that new 50 2-stroker I mentioned before but a 4-banger sure is tempting.

Here's what that wing looks like inside:

PM

Ed,

Very, very nice. Always enjoy your informative remarks regarding a plane's potential.

I'm still finishing up my Super Stinker but took a few moments this evening to actually look at the damage to the wing on my Tango.

I shook the wing and heard too much rattle-rattle so I peeled the bottom covering off. Hmmm. Not much in the way of woodwork here, LOL.

Here's a few photos. rather than attempt to recut exact replacements, I'm simply going to patch the existing ribs, apply some bracing to them and recover in white.

I got a great deal on 1 meter rolls of brilliant white from Sig. I like Ultracote as my primary covering choice but Aerokote is a very close second!

What do you think about an OS FS40 on this bird? I realize it a smaller displacement but speed here for me isn't as important as torque. I still have that new 50 2-stroker I mentioned before but a 4-banger sure is tempting.

Here's what that wing looks like inside:

PM

That is light construction, but the plane is made to fly. Personally, I couldn't build one that light from scratch.

The 40 4-stroke would fly it around more like a fat wing trainer or a sport plane. A .56 would be better. For 3D type flying, you'd need something in the .70-.75 range. I had a Saito .72 and an OS .70 available, but didn't want to take the trouble to re-route the thrlttle cable. Besides, the wife got me the OS .55 along with the Tango so I was obligated to ues it. The .70 is now in a Stinger 40 ARF. $80 on sale from Tower. I didn't need it, but it was too cheap to pass up.

One problem with the .40 FS, or even a Saito .56, is nose weight. You might need the battery way up front under, or over, the tank. With a small engine, I definitely hate to add dead weight. I'm using metal gear, digital servos in the rear, but for a light engine, I think I would go with nylon gear standards. You ought to be able to save an ounce or so right there. This would probably translate to 4 ounces in front.

The old OS .40 never was a power house. I figure it would be like a .25 on the nose. I did solo a guy flying one on a 3-channel Sig Kadet Senior. It was slow, but it putt-putted around nicely. It was an old style trainer where you could release the sticks and the plane would automatically return to level flight. I saw him do it on final once when he got messed up in a right turn. I was about to snatch the transmitter when he released and bingo, the plane leveled out. He had turned left, then corrected wrong. He turned on around and went on and landed.

I'll bet one of the older Saito .65s would be nice and not overly powerful.

I just thought you folks would be interested in a video of a Tango hovering:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XQ3MG80dpE

It's amazing what this thing can do in the wind!

NorfolkSouthern

Very nice video!

I guess I'll can the 40fs idea and load the 50 onto the nose. I do have a OS 60FP idle. Hmmm

I'll get back to this thread when I've gotten the ribs repaired and the wing recovered. I'm jazzed now to get it in the air. My Super Stinker may just have to wait...

PM

I finally maidened this little badger, using the OS 55 AX and an UGLY APC 12 X 4 prop. It's a little squirrely on takeoff, likes to torque roll and windmill. Start slow, get some speed, then point it up and gun the throttle before it bites. It's great once it's up. Rolls like a spinning fishin' lure at high rates. It can hover when its pointed in the wind. It goes like a rocket when you slam the accelerator! Little worry about landing, it's what it seems to do best. I don't know about anybody else, but I like it. It's different, it's special, it takes some getting used to. I think of it as like a speedy 3D Citabria with short wings and a thick airfoil!

NorfolkSouthern