If you wan't to give me that UCD, I'll be more than happy....

Diablotin Mini Super

Hacker B40 8L 4,4:1 14x7 on 10x2600

2:1 thrust weight ratio, 8min flights

people say it´s easy to hover...

Robert,

If you're ever in New York and get the urge to come pick it up, it's yours.

David

Damn you, you saw that I am from Ireland didn't you?

Lets focus on what you have right now.

The Edge 120 with the Moki 135 should be able to hover the easiest. You to should use a large diameter flat pitch prop perferably with a wide blade. The moki 135 has almost the same amount of power as the OS 1.60 FX. You should try the 18x6W APC or 17x6 APC on this plane. This will greatly increase the thrust of this engine. The inline design of the Edge should lock the edge in for the elevator but you will have to make corrections for the elevator. Use about 3" of throw for the elevator and 4 1/2" for the rudder for 3D. Some expo (50% on 3d rates) should help keep the plane somewhat docile. A more rearward CG also helps. To the guy using the US35 bad idea. Too heavy with too little output. Too heavy of a plane is the biggest mistake in trying to do 3D. Keep this plane around 11 to 12 pounds for 3D.

With the 1/3 scale Pitts Special using the Fugi 50 you should be thinking about a 22x8 or a 22x10 Menz Standard prop. This plane has a short tail moment and therefore less time to make corrections in a hover making it harder. The Pitts Special is not really a 3D plane but it is capable of torque rolling.

On the Ultimate Bipe use a 17x6 or a 16x8 APC.

One of the best combos I have seen in action in the 120 size is the Dave Patrick Ultimate Bipe w/YS140. This plane was using a 17x8 APC and has just the right balance of power and light weight to perform 3D well.

The Fun50 is too small for the YS 91. I've seen one up close and it looks like it is built very well, plus it has an airfoil horizontal stab. It would do well with a Saito 72 or similar, but a 91 would be too much for it.

I think a QHOR 40 size with a 60-75 engine would work great for hovering. A buddy has one with a Magnum 75 and I like it so much that I just ordered the equipment to build one for myself. I'm going to pwer mine with an OS 65LA.

The UCD is an excellent hovering airplane with a 91 four stroke, and I have not had problems getting mine to snap roll, blender, and other maneuvers. It rocks its wing in a harrier but it can be greatly reduced with spoileron mix.

David,

Take a look here.
Extreme

I like the looks of the Edge profile and the Yak profile for that size motor you were asking about.

I am supposed to get some flying time on those planes next weekend and I will report back what I think.

Wayne,

Thanks SO much for that link, I think I want one of everything!

Both of those profiles look awesome, and I'm really liking the 65" Extra 300LX too.

I'll be giving those folks a call tomorrow for sure.

Thanks again,
David

Hey guys,

We are flying a AW 36% Edge 540 with a DA 100 for power. And the thing is one of the easiest and best flying and hovering/tr plane I have ever flown. Yes it definately help to have a engine with lots of power and a big wide prop with low pitch. Good Luck.

Chris

Modeltech Extra 300L
O.S. .46fx macs pipe (baffles removed)
APC 12.25x3.75 prop 15 %nitro
4.6 lb.s
hovers @ half throttle

Fun plane, can't make it tumble tho.........

Break down and buy a carden 540 or 330

I did!

Carden 35% "baby" Extra 330.

I wont see the boxes till June though.
I have a shiny new DA-100 to put in it.

........No, I am not excited about this plane at all.............

Here is my Morris Hobbies .40 Su-Do-Khoi, Its a pretty good 3D bird. Ricky

Looks like you ready to reach out and grab it!

Lanier Pro twister,and Saito .72,Hovers just great at about half throttle,it will harrier,flatspin,waterfall,knifeedge loop;basically ,whatever you ask from it.
Its easy to hover too

Hey, here's a new one...one of our instructors was hovering a Sig PT-40 with a Saito 91...once you get it right, you'll start trying to hover everything...

Cougar 2000 is not bad for hovering....

Ive got a OS 46 FX swinging a 12.25x3.75 APC prop...

Wayne - I think on one occasion I did reach out and grab it, But it was prior to the new rule change

Yeah I understand...
My Planes NEVER come closer than 25' to me and I would NEVER catch one out of a hover..

I've got a SuperCraft Cap 232 (60) in the box yet, how about that for a trainer to hover. What power-plant should I use in the two-cycle category. Or should I buy a U-Can-Do if they are as easy to hover as everyone says they are.
Sport10, Thanks for your recommendations. We'll be ordering some props for the planes you mentioned. Thanks
Tim

Hi guys,

How about the Kange Cap 232 (60) with a YS91?

I may be mistaken here...isn't the Super Kraft CAP 232 and the Kangke CAP 232 the same plane??

Yes, Same plane. I actually spelled it wrong, it is SuperKraft. Imported by Kangke.
Tim

The UCD 3d is easy to hover but most of the people hovering them already know how to hover and then say it is easy to hover the UCD 3d. I think you are just going to have to burn the fuel on any plane you decide to use.

The UCD would be a good plane to learn on.....