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USNhornet846 07-29-2003 01:24 AM

Modeltech Magic
 
Hey,

Just wondering if anyone had suggestions for engines on the magic. I have looked at some reviews and they say lighter is best. Would the O.S. 32 SX be good enough to pull It out of a hover? Or am i better off with a .46 FX for the power? ;) Any other recommendations for engines? I want a powerful, maneuverable plane.

Thanks in advance,

Navy

rhd-RCU 07-29-2003 01:34 AM

Modeltech Magic
 
Hi,
I have a Webra 50 in mine and it goes up llike a rocket. I have heard that it will hover with an LA 40. I think both of your choices would work fine. I would go with the 32. Should be plenty of power.

splais 07-29-2003 01:34 AM

Modeltech Magic
 
I have a ST.45 on mine with a pitts muffler. got weight wrapped around the tail wire, but it flies GREAT; but then it flew great with an MVVS .40 on it also. If you get a .45 use an APC 12.25x3.75 prop.

southern_touch9 07-29-2003 02:10 AM

Modeltech Magic
 
I dont have one so I dont know but guys around here are flying them with the TT .36 and they seem to pull out of hover fine.

USNhornet846 07-29-2003 02:49 AM

thanks
 
Thanks to all who responded. I think i will go with the os 32 (more output than 40 LA, equal to the TT 36, but lighter than both.) thanks again guys. :D

Ryan Nau 07-29-2003 01:30 PM

Modeltech Magic
 
I dont know if a magic will hover on a stock OS LA 40. With a pipe it probably will. My dad has an OS LA 46 on his with a mac pipe, 11x4 and it hovers easy. So any of your motors will work with it.
Im going to put a YS 63 in mine when I get to it!!!!

aerolou 07-29-2003 01:35 PM

Modeltech Magic
 
Mine will hover and torqu roll with a stock Thunder tiger GP42, APC 12.25 x 3.75 and I have 3/4 oz. of lead on the tail.

Lou

Ian.W 07-29-2003 04:55 PM

Modeltech Magic
 
Go light and powerful, irvine 39 (extremly poverfull on a small price)

Or

A west eurotech 36t1 and pipe, but i dont know if you can get these in the US. all i can say is there amazing. They are more expencive, but your paying for the best.

Ian

houfek 07-29-2003 05:14 PM

Modeltech Magic
 
Anybody doing brushless in this model ?

Jim

UP Down Flyer 07-30-2003 12:11 AM

Modeltech Magic
 
Ha, Navy! I have a 36 TT in my magic,with a macs shorty pipe. It hovers and pulls out fine.The planes weight is 4.1lbs.Could be lighter but I used a du-bro isolated mount went with HS 225mg all around on 4.8v. P.S elevation were I fly is 2200 asl Have Fun! Butch.

WADE 07-30-2003 06:06 AM

Modeltech Magic
 

Originally posted by houfek
Anybody doing brushless in this model ?

Jim

Jim,

Check out this site: http://www.megamotorusa.com/

They have some videos of the Magic 3D they are flying on electric power. Looks like it hovers easily with great pullout.

Just found the link directly to the videos. Here you go: http://www.megamotorusa.com/videos/mega-magic.htm

Wade

JoshFlies3D 07-30-2003 06:48 AM

Modeltech Magic
 
I had a OS 32 SF with an Ultrathrust muffler on my Magic and it ROCKETED out of a hover, power to BURN! :D

Josh

WADE 07-30-2003 06:58 AM

Modeltech Magic
 
I have a friend that has a TT 42GP w/mousse muffler on his Magic 3D. It flies the plane great just flying around, but he isn't too pleased with the power in a hover and especially in pullout from a hover. It's a new motor so maybe it will get better with some runtime. He probably needs to experiment with some different props. I think his plane is a few ounces under 4lbs. Maybe this much weight is a little too much for the 42 when it comes to hover pullout authority. Any ideas?

Wade

Ian.W 07-30-2003 08:02 AM

Modeltech Magic
 
The GP range arnt that powerfull. go iurvine 39!

WADE 07-30-2003 09:19 AM

Modeltech Magic
 
There's been a few guys on here that have said the GP 42 with mousse setup had plenty of pullout from a hover. Maybe his plane is a little heavier than some.

Ian.W 07-30-2003 09:42 AM

Modeltech Magic
 
Whats a 'mousse' setup

WADE 07-30-2003 10:12 AM

Modeltech Magic
 

Originally posted by edible_engine
Whats a 'mousse' setup

Check out this thread for info on the mousse can muffler:

http://www.rcuniverse.com/showthread...se+can+muffler]

bobbdd 07-30-2003 05:46 PM

Magic with O.S. 52 FS
 
I just got a Magic, from a buddy, and he had a Magnum 52 FS. He turned a 12X5, so I thought the O.S. turn at least a 12X6. WELL..
I flew this plane this morning, and it will actually hover just above idle. This set-up is a heaver engine then you were looking for, but the overall result is incredible.

bobbdd

WADE 07-31-2003 01:09 AM

Modeltech Magic
 
One guy on here tried a Saito 40 on his Magic, but I think he said it could use a little more power.

Wade

poptartcrust 07-31-2003 01:17 AM

Modeltech Magic
 
i had a magic(fluttered ailerons going vertical;( )i would definately go with a .46fx. You will find it is cheaper to buy the best stuff first insead of somethin else and not be satisfied with it, but it is up to you

Aeromodeler 07-31-2003 06:31 AM

Modeltech Magic
 
In the middle of putting a Magic together myself...... I'll be using an OS.52 on mine swinging a 12-5...............
Judging by those videos above, the Magic looks to be a bit unstable............. maybe it's just there setup......................

Ian.W 07-31-2003 07:26 AM

Modeltech Magic
 
Its a very light plane. proberbly 1.6kg (sorry dont know it in lbs)

Also it could be windy, and with a thick section like that it'll be blown all over the place

Ian

Hercmate 07-31-2003 08:24 AM

Modeltech Magic
 
Leo 37 from Just Engines, cheap and VERY powerful!

cajungent38 08-01-2003 08:41 PM

Modeltech Magic
 
I have a OS 40 LA in mine and it doesn't have unlimited vertical.
Anyone ever run a Rossi .40, they say it has 2.0 HP? That's more than a .46 and others.

Ian.W 08-02-2003 04:27 PM

Modeltech Magic
 
No No No No NO

Use a LIGHT engine. This will make the CG further back without having to add weight. I have 2 of these. one with a 46 and one with a 36. the 36 out perform the 46 bye miles. you need low weight=low wing loading=low speeds

Use a 32-39

Nouthing else

Ian


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