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Eugoogoly 08-13-2003 11:09 PM

Laser 3D
 
i dont get it :stupid: whats the c word?

southern_touch9 08-14-2003 02:05 AM

Laser 3D
 
I think the C word is Capiche. There are a few users here that are very loyal to that airplane. Im not even sure if they know other planes exist :) I have never flown a capiche but I have flown the Laser3d and you made a good choice on the airplane. I would have went with a YS 63 or Saito .72 for power but you will still enjoy the plane with the .53 2 stroker. What servos do you plan on running in it? I would run something with around 70 oz. of torque. I am running Hitech 605's all the way around, with the exception of the rudder there I am running a Hitech 645MG. With this set up I am getting around 65 degrees up deflection on my elevator and 50 degrees down (any lower and it begins to rub on other things).

Sprink 08-14-2003 07:25 AM

Laser 3D
 
Eugoogoly, if this is your second plane, stick with low rates at first, and fly it normally to get used to it. If you haven't got one already, you need a computer tranny so that you can put exponential in the controls to make it more controllable.

You will need a fun fly prop (APC 12.25x3.75 or 13x4). This will mean you fly slow, but that is not a problem for that plane. Dont try to fly fast, the plane is not designed for it.

3DFanatic 08-15-2003 04:47 AM

Laser 3D
 
Eugoogoly, for best engine cooling, leave the cowl off :D

As for a pipe, make one out of a mousse can.

Sprink 08-15-2003 07:42 AM

Laser 3D
 
3DFanatic,

Us brits have no idea what a mouse can is (at least I dont). I suspect it is another product not available outside North America.

In the UK noise is a big issue. Using anything other than the standard silencer can be risky. The throttle pipes available here are designed to meet UK noise regulations.

Ian.W 08-15-2003 07:59 AM

Laser 3D
 
I know what they are, i asked!

Im going to use the brazer when i get back to school ( :( )

Heres how to make em

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/webmaster01/mcp/mcm.html

Ian

LS171Malibu 08-15-2003 08:21 AM

Laser 3D
 
I've got one that is just awesome with a YS .53

Eugoogoly 08-15-2003 06:20 PM

Laser 3D
 
well i got the plane yesterday. still working on the wing. I wish i got a kit in the first place and not an arf. This is too much fun and frustrating at the same time.

I LOVE KITS!!
:D :D

Sprink 08-15-2003 06:37 PM

Laser 3D
 
Yeah good on ya.

Can't stand ARFs, no fun in building them, all the interesting stuff is already done.

Luke 3D returns 08-15-2003 06:45 PM

Laser 3D
 
even worse......... artf 3d models being flown like pylon racers. arrgh get the shot gun out dad :cool:

Sprink 08-15-2003 07:41 PM

Laser 3D
 
The number of Xtreems etc flown at my club like they are normal planes and the owner says something like "I tried high rates once but they were silly so I gave up" and I'm thinking go out and get yourself a spacewalker or somat you are missing the point!

Johnnylightning 08-15-2003 09:11 PM

Laser 3D
 

Originally posted by Sprink
The number of Xtreems etc flown at my club like they are normal planes and the owner says something like "I tried high rates once but they were silly so I gave up" and I'm thinking go out and get yourself a spacewalker or somat you are missing the point!
Tell 'em: STALL THAT BAD BOY!!!!! CAPICHE?!!!!!

3DFanatic 08-16-2003 05:08 AM

Laser 3D
 

Originally posted by Sprink
3DFanatic,

Us brits have no idea what a mouse can is (at least I dont). I suspect it is another product not available outside North America.

In the UK noise is a big issue. Using anything other than the standard silencer can be risky. The throttle pipes available here are designed to meet UK noise regulations.

Mousse...the pressurized stuff in a can that you spray on your hair and it's supposed to make you look good :D

I'll get you a pic of a mousse can setup tomorrow.

Sprink 08-16-2003 06:55 AM

Laser 3D
 
Too busy trying to make my planes and flying look good to worry about my hair. :D

SALMONBUG 08-16-2003 08:13 AM

Laser 3D
 
1 Attachment(s)
here is mine, powered with a ys63. excelent 3D airplane. If you want plenty of valuables infos about the buiding sequence, see this thread

http://www.rcuniverse.com/showthread...hreadid=724100

plenty of members gave me excelent suggestions on this thread when I builded itt

Eugoogoly 08-16-2003 01:26 PM

Laser 3D
 
stupid superglue :mad: glued the ailerons to the plans

SALMONBUG 08-16-2003 02:31 PM

Laser 3D
 
rule number one of kit building, always protect your plan

I use plastic film, the CA is debond easy from plastic


rule number 2 when working with CA, don't use too much glue !

Eugoogoly 08-16-2003 07:36 PM

Laser 3D
 
got it sorted now with only a little of paper stuck to the ailerons.

but ive got a problem with the fuselage - if you could refer to step 37 of the instructions - it says continue by fitting the side reinforcement. is this just the 6x6mm balsa spars running alont the inside of the fuse or is there something else im not getting?

wish these belgiums could have used colour ink. might be able to work out the pictures better.

anither q. when it says to sand the hinge edges of the ailerons, how much should i take off or should they just be rounded?

thanks

SALMONBUG 08-16-2003 07:53 PM

Laser 3D
 
step 37


because I am a belgian guy, I fully understand the instruction book, and I will be happy to help you
first glue the 6*6 balsa reinforcements each fuselage side has 3 pieces of 6*6 balsa reinforcement one long on the top and bottom and a small one on the bottom betwwen wing and front fuselage. be careful and locate the position were the spars stop in the aft fuselage.

My above instructions assume that you have perfectly glued together the two ply pieces making each fuselage side (to do that use a straight stuff laying in your workshop to align them)

BE SURE TO BUILD A LEFT AND A RIGHT ASSEMBLY




about your ailerons, you will notice that there is a line on the plan drawn on the leading edges spars of ailerons, this line is the ref line showing you that you must sand the edges to a V shape

got it?


hope this help......

Eugoogoly 08-16-2003 08:06 PM

Laser 3D
 
yep that helped thanks salmonbug.

now back to building :)

SALMONBUG 08-16-2003 08:11 PM

Laser 3D
 
note that step 39 ask you to put one more small 6*6 piece in the front.

one more rule when you build a kit
when you have to cut several parts in balsa spars, CUT LARGE PIECES FIRST. otherwise theres is a risk that you won't have enough long sticks remaining to make your long parts.
In the laser 3D, there is more than enough wood in the box, but if one day you build a sig kadet senior, you will understand what I mean

Eugoogoly 08-17-2003 12:02 AM

Laser 3D
 
how many servos does this plane need? and should i go for a 4 stroke engine?

southern_touch9 08-17-2003 02:49 AM

Laser 3D
 
This plane requires 6 servos and I think you should go for a 4 stroke

SALMONBUG 08-17-2003 07:30 AM

Laser 3D
 
I agree, buy a four stroke. it fly well with a OS52 surpass, and extremely well with a ys63
buy also good ball beared servos for the flight controls

SALMONBUG 08-17-2003 08:12 AM

Laser 3D
 
eugoogoly, I don't want to disapoint you, but I have to tell you what I think.
The laser 3D is in my opinion certainly not a good second airplane. Hig performances 3D designs like the laser are fragile airplanes. They are very light. they fly gently with 1/3 power and reduced flight controls throw, but will suffer a lot if you slightly miss your landings or during ground manipulations.



I have no doubt about your flying skills or your ability to build it (be sure of that), but in my opinion you should select a more strong design as second bird.

A good plane should be a 4 star 60, but it seems that you want to jump a step and imeditaly go to somehing very hot, so I suggest you a sig somethin extra (available in kit or ARF), this design is very very funy to fly and strong. The somethin extra will accept the servos and the engine of your future laser 3D and will give hours of pleasure. the kit version of the somethin extra is a dream to build, just put a bottle of CA in the box, shake and you have the plane ready lol


this is my opinion, but if you decide to continue the building of your laser, be sure I will help you.

if you decide to build your laser 3D with a YS63, you have to know that this engine is a hig performance engine, requiring an extensive breaking in procedure on a test stand, expensive fuel and that plenty of experimented modelers have a lot of dificulties to tune this engine correctly (me first)


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