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Diver09 09-30-2004 08:15 PM

Easiest plane to hover.
 
I'm starting to learn how to 3D and I would like a plane that will easily hover.
Flip???
UCANDO???
Funtana???
Magic???
Any profiles???
I just moved up from a Great Planes Super Sportster and a Mini Laser 3D.

Dewey2 09-30-2004 08:47 PM

RE: Easiest plane to hover.
 
spad 3d or any plane with a 25 pound weight hanging off the tail

JohnVH 09-30-2004 09:12 PM

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UCD3D is a very easy one

drumbum 09-30-2004 09:41 PM

RE: Easiest plane to hover.
 
I have a U-can-Do and love it.. it will hover great. but a friend of mine has the harrier and i have flown it. In my personal opinnion it is the easiest to hover of them all. I soloed him for the first time 8 months ago and he is allready hovering it

joel_jones 09-30-2004 09:51 PM

RE: Easiest plane to hover.
 
i agree .. first time 3d'ers a u can do with a 91 .. perfect match.. and u won't break the bank..

easy to assemble to..

smoke on
jj:D

Mark Dennis 09-30-2004 09:52 PM

RE: Easiest plane to hover.
 
the sig mayhem hovers really well i like mine better than the ucds i owned and its about the same price

hope this helps
mark

JoeAirPort 09-30-2004 09:54 PM

RE: Easiest plane to hover.
 
Funtana 40 hovers really nice. Especially with a YS 63 turning 14-4W. Piece of cake.

Diver09 09-30-2004 09:56 PM

RE: Easiest plane to hover.
 
Which UCANDO? .40 or .60???

3D ONdaEDGE 09-30-2004 10:00 PM

RE: Easiest plane to hover.
 
about the only funflys I have hovered are the funtana, Ucando 46 and a Phoenix funstar 3-d. The funtana was work. Had to constantly move the sticks. The funstar was easy. A correction here and there and the nose was up. The Ucando was the easiest. You could get the nose up and tilt it forward just a tad and all you had to do was hold a minimal amount of up elevator and it would just hang there.

joel_jones 09-30-2004 10:00 PM

RE: Easiest plane to hover.
 
60 size is better in my option. little larger and a longer tail moment.. i have had both and the 60 was a lot more fun.


jj:D

Diver09 09-30-2004 10:21 PM

RE: Easiest plane to hover.
 
OK Thanks, Which Is the best engine for the UCANDO .60. Should I get the same equipment for the UCANDO as the review on R/C Universe?

C140 Brothers 10-01-2004 01:23 AM

RE: Easiest plane to hover.
 
try a weston UK Cougar 2000

Spacey 10-01-2004 02:41 AM

RE: Easiest plane to hover.
 
I have yet to find planes more stable in a hover than a profile. Have to admit I haven't flown the UCD. But my vote goes for the OMP 47" Edge 540 or the Yak or even the Katana. I fly the Yak now and it is actually possible to do the Qui Qui wave in the hover without too much stress. :D :D

www.ohiomodelproducts.com

drumbum 10-01-2004 07:14 AM

RE: Easiest plane to hover.
 
Ive flown both the .60 seems better. im using a cheap ASP .91 4 stroke $169 new. flys it in fact better than my O.S. 91 pumped did. both are on 30%. unlike my funtana. where im still adujsting,changing motors,moving weight. and still flys marginal. GP didnt do like H9 their 60 size plane is a 60 size plane.

Diver09 10-01-2004 07:38 AM

RE: Easiest plane to hover.
 
where can I get the ASP engine?

nyrcpilot 10-01-2004 09:52 AM

RE: Easiest plane to hover.
 
You are going to get a lot of different answers to this question, but here is my take.....Set Up!

Setting the plane up for hovering and 3d will make that particular plane better at hovering. One key setup point with hovering is thrust line, not only right to left thrust but up and down as well. If you have to hold excess rudder in the hover you have side thrust issues, if you are holding elevator you have up/down thrust issues. Spend time setting this up right!

Next is CG, throw and expo. A plane with a reward cg will be easier to keep in a hover....most if the time! Use the CG, throw and expo to get a good balance of control in forward flight and hovering. There will be a small sacrifice to either side of this set up, but a happy medium is not impossible.....it just takes time.

After all this is done the last factor is confidence and which plane can build that confidence quickly! For this I would recommend something with a thick fun fly wing ( not funtana ) and the lowest wing load possible. Any .40 fun fly plane 4-5lbs with a Satio .72, thick wing, and semi long tail is a good choice. If you are thinking .60 size go with a 6-7.5 lb with a Satio 1.00.

FYI, I own a funtana 40....it is not a 3d trainer, I use it to sharpen my skills for my bigger GS gassers.

drumbum 10-01-2004 10:46 AM

RE: Easiest plane to hover.
 
got mine off E-bay from a distibuter in canada. they also have a 1.20 4 stroke that retails for $199. Ive heard they are made in the same factory as magnum but I havent seen magnum come out with a 1.20-4 yet so i dont know. If you hold the ASP 91 up to the O.S. 91 they look almost IDENTICAL. but i swear my ASP has more power. but for the money savings I would buy another. There Is a US distributer here http://www.excelhobby.com/excel_hobby_053.htm

they are out of stock right now

vypr 10-01-2004 03:14 PM

RE: Easiest plane to hover.
 
egads... asp!?! My only asp wore out in no time at all, + its 2 stroke. THe UCD loves a 4 stroke motor. Get a saito 100, perfect combo fot the .60 UCD. Thats the combo I fly with and a few other guys fly with at my field and all love it. Flys like a feather stings like a bee:D Nothing like having the wing loading of a helium baloon and similar flight characteristics. THe 4stroker has TONS of torgue so you can blip it and have power right now, and none of that 2 stroke peakyness forcing you to swing a smaller prop.

-Ian

Dewey2 10-01-2004 04:05 PM

RE: Easiest plane to hover.
 

Get a saito 100, perfect combo fot the .60 UCD
neeeeeeeoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo satio 100 perfect for 46 size-u-can-do 3d ys 110 perfect for u-can-do-3d-60 the asp they linked to was four stroke and magnun makes a 120 four stroke 279.99 at hobby people

drumbum 10-01-2004 04:10 PM

RE: Easiest plane to hover.
 
the ASP im talking about is 4 stroke.. ive also used there 46s on quickie 500s for combat with no problems. Taching the crap out of them on 15% nitro. sure i wore them out but they were being way over revved took about 2 years

doormn4281 10-28-2004 08:56 PM

RE: Easiest plane to hover.
 
i have u can do 46 and 60. and also the funtana.. go with the u can do 46. mine has a fx 61. and its gre

3DDino 10-29-2004 06:57 AM

RE: Easiest plane to hover.
 
hmmmmmm ...... hovering thoroughbred hmmmmm...
..... cmpro giles2023d40 or
..... cmpro passion 3d 60 or
..... h9 harrier 3d 90
hmmmmmmm.............

pizza 10-29-2004 07:22 AM

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Easiest would be Diablotin Super os.46ax - it is big and light 4lb all up

Gizmo3D 10-29-2004 08:05 AM

RE: Easiest plane to hover.
 
By far the easiest plane to hang is a shockflyer or something similar. You need shooting if you can't hang one of them!

RC4 10-29-2004 10:43 AM

RE: Easiest plane to hover.
 
I haven't flown any gas or glow planes yet. But, out of the 3 electrics that I have flown, I find biplanes easier to hover for some reason. Even with the shorter tail moment, corrections just seem to be easier.


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