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I just ordered a CAP and have been thinking of putting the DA-50-R as its powerplant. The thing is that i have been wondering how have you fitted the muffler and what muffler are you using? So could you please post some pics that are showing that?

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:)Hi...

A rare picture of me and my Cap.

I've got over 20 flights on this plane now. In the next few days I'll post a review of what I think of the plane. Should be fun.

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Barry

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You got them aluminum arms on yet???[sm=72_72.gif]

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:)Steve...

I'll get them on tonight. I did get the optic kill switch installed though. That is very cool, and light.

Look forward to flying with you again.

Thanks
Barry

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hey guys,
i just did a maiden on my cap sunday.. it flys beautifully... its really a nice plane.. i got the moki 2.10 in it which had plenty of power and very reliable,. i have a couple of things that need to be adjusted on mine.. i need to shim the motor down just a hair and re-due the ball links i got on the tail.. mine weighs in at 14lb 1.0 oz so not bad... i got all s3305 servos in it 2 tail and 1 pull pull... this thing just floats in the air with the air breaks.. so smooth.. made it alot easier on the cross winds i had so that made it less nerve racking once i did my first landing... im still doing some trimming on mine so its not quite perfect yet so ones i make some of the adjustments i should be able to dial it in, in a few more flights... i put 3 flites on it so far,,, i also like the flex on the landing.. gives it a lil bounce..
josh

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Hey Barry,
You missed out on some good huckin tonight. I had my Colombo 300L and Clark had his Cermark Pitts. My Beatuful Gal and I had a date for flying and she took photos of the day.

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:)Steve...

Looking very good. That plane of yours sure looks good in the air.

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Barry

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Did any one have any insides on fuji 43 on this plane for hovers?

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:)Blockbuster...

Fly RC Magazine did a review on this plane with the Fuji 43. He said it would hover with very slow pull out. He also said he was at 5000' elevation and thought it would pull out fine at sealevel.

The EVO 45GX (mine engine) will pull out smartly but is not a rocket by any means. It is however unlimited and will go from 20' to out of sight in just a few seconds. I like it.

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Barry

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I'm thinking of buying this model as my first 27% acro plane and moving into 3D...Any suggestion on the enginer?? I was thinking the Fuji-43 for gas, OS1.6FX or even the Satio 2.2?? I am also planning on a Slimline smoke system.
Last option might be the new new BME-55

Any thoughts?

Thanks!

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It's a nice plane. and built well. I've flown mine with a os 1.6 a brison 52cc and a brison 40cc. the best combo I liked is the 40cc. it flies at 13.5 lbs and is a good combo of weight and power. the 50cc was too heavy at 14 + lbs. it flew o.k. but I notice I had to stay on top of it or it would drop a wing. with the o.s. it floated like a feather and was really fun. the things I didn't like was the annoying 2 stroke sound and hovering on hot days really got the engine hot. oh! and glow is expensive.

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:)Obviously I built mine with the EVO 45GX. I'm most impressed with this engine, even at my elevation. I know I wouldn't be satisfied with the OS160 up here in thin air. I believe this engine makes more power than the Fuji 43CC. I wouldn't want any less. But if you are close to sea level the FUJI would probably be enough. Mine balance very nicely with this engine and is just a tad tail heavy. I didn't add any weight and yet it lands nicely. In a stiff wind it's a bit of a handful but up to 10MPH it's very easy.

I'm sure either the Saito 220 or the BME55 (if it ever gets released, seems there's some doubt on that) would be excellent choices. For me...I wanted this to be my first gasser. I'm not disappointed.

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Barry

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:)One more thing...I weigh 13lbs 5ozs with no fuel or wheel pants. Pretty much everything else is stock.

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Barry

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Those seem like pretty dismal numbers, considering Evolution's power claims on that engine and that it weighs as much as a DA-50.
Your engine is turning a 21X8 at 6650 RPM...My DA-50, within the first two minutes of running, saw 7200 RPM on a 22X8 prop. Maybe the Evolution is a dog until it's broken in? Let's hope so, otherwise the DA is still the leader of the pack.

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I use RED locktite on the forward screws (the ones that attach the engine to the standoffs), along with material called Torqueseal or Torquestripe, and I drill holes through the aft screws (the ones that go through the firewall) and safetywire them in place - never, EVER had a single problem with the engine coming loose! I also drill six 1/8" holes around the 1/4" holes in the firewall and glue some 1/8" dowel into them and sand them flush. This prevents the wood from crushing when you tighten the bolts. That is most likely the key cause to your bolts starting to come loose in the first place - you can thank that cheesy chinese ply for your misfortune!

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All break-in oils will do that. Use rubbing alcohol or Krud cutter to clean it up. Also, running too rich will just make it worse. Set your low needle lean enough that the engine seems to cut out when you blip the throttle, then open it 1/8 turn. Then set your high needle for max RPM and then back it out for only about a 100-150RPM drop. This should cut down on the sludge a bit.

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:)I'm building a plane right now (Air Wild 29% Extra) and I'm using a DA50 on it. I think your elevation is about the same as mine, isn't it? I'd love to get a little more power. I'm down to only about 1 quart of break in fuel to go. After that I'm going to Amsoil 50:1 mix. I'm hoping the engine will free up and go a little better. In fairness I'm using the breakin oil that came with the engine. It's the stickiest stuff I've ever seen. Surely when I put something slick in there the engine will perform better. It does fly the CAP very nicely though. My most recent numbers are: steady 19lbs thrust with about 6800 RPM. I think there is a good chance of getting over 7000. But as you said that's with the 21x8 prop. I'm going to be running a 22x8 for starters on the DA50. I have no experience with that engine either so I'm learning as I go.

What speed do you get with your DA after it's broken in?

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Barry

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:)bodywerks...

Oh...thanks for the tips on clean up and the firewall. I used an aluminum angle iron 1/16" to reinforce the firewall on the fuse side. I also used more locktite and this allowed me to really "tighten" up on the bolts. So far (I'm checking everytime I fly) no more coming loose.

I starting using rubbing alcohol to clean up. You're right, much better. I've also tuned the engine a little closer and, you're right again, that helps. Surely when I go to the normal oil it will be even better.

Ah this hobby........

Thanks
Barry

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Engines..

I'm undecided about the Fuji-43 and the Saito 2.20 - I have two other Saitos in other planes but have never had a gasser. Why doesn't anyone consider the Saito 2.20 for this plane? What are the pros and cons to either engine choice besides the fact that gas is cheaper to fly??

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:)KMW1...

I think the Saito 220 would probably be a good engine for this plane. You'd probably be about 12 1/2 lbs ready to fly less fuel. That would be a good weight for that engine. I think the reason most wouldn't use that engine is the expensive fuel it uses, and a lot of it.

I bought this plane with the intent of making it my first gasser. If I didn't like it I could always convert it to glow. But, I really like the gas. It "feels" different than the glow engines but I'm getting used to it. I like the simple stuff you take to the field, the low prices, and the education I'm getting. I'm presently building another gasser right now. I think I'm hooked. Another benefit, is less mess but the mess never bothered my with the glow so that's subjective.

Anyways, gas was just the next logical step for me. I still have plenty of glow planes and don't think I'll get rid of them all. But I do like the gassers.

thanks
Barry

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I have to admit that the DA I currently have is in California. But the DA I had out here (actually 6800 feet) was turning at 7,000-7100 on a 22X8. Glad everything is working out for you. It looks like this plane isn't so bad for a 45-50cc gasser if it can be built to 13.5 pounds like you stated. I am interested in seeing how the H9 Cap compares - they're talking about 15+ pounds, which would be pretty depressing[&o]

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Thanks Barry!

I'm flying around sea level so either engine should be great - however, I do want a smoke system in this plane and right now Slimline does not make a smoke muffler for either engine....maybe by the holidays they will have one. Anyway, as I see it, the gas will be cheaper to operate but about 1.5# heavier with the engine and ignition battery & less mess.

The Saito is lighter, more expensive to operate, more oil mess....but won't I need a larger fuel tank for the Saito ~ 24oz?? vs. a 14~16 oz gasser? I will also need another battery for the smoke system (more weight)

Since I don't have a gasser maybe I'll give it a try.....this plane looks great!

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:)kmw!...

I think the kit comes with a 20oz fuel tank. I went to a 15oz that I had laying around just to save an ounce or two. I can fly 13 minutes easily (my timed normal flight) and have plenty of fuel left over. Probably about 1/2 tank the way I fly (mostly 3D). Very easy on the gas.

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bodywerks...

Mine acutally weighs 13lbs 5ozs not 13.5 pounds. That's on my digital postal scale. It's accurate. That's with a bit smaller fuel tank, no wheel pants, carbon fiber pushrods and no other special mods. Nice and light.

It flys good. Best waterfalls I've ever seen. Good flat spins and excellent KE. Harrier are above average. I'm going to write a full review in a few days. It's hard to hover. The engine is fine and I can hover for 30-45 seconds (pretty long actually) and then I lose it. It doesn't want to just sit there like some of my other planes. You have to work it.

For my first gasser, I wouldn't change a thing. I like it.

Thanks
Barry

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:)One of the things that makes this plane light is the one piece wing. It's hard to carry to the field but easy to install. So, like most things, the one piece wing is great!....and Bad!!!!

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Barry

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I don't know - you're doing a pretty awesome review right here!