Does a .15 size 3D plane exist?
 

Mark

thank You for Your reply.
You are true, that it is necessary to compare engines with the same prop. During two years, I used eleven props from 7x4 to 9x3. When I used APC 8x4 on Magnum, tachometer was not available for me. Now ,I will try MA8x4 on OS and I will compare it with Magnum. I can try APC 8x4 too.

On the picture is Tigercat. It was electric powered ARF kit, but my friend mounted a .15 glow engine. I do not knw, if it is available in US too.http://www.novy-jicin.cz/vyroba/wmodel/

Does a .15 size 3D plane exist?
 

With all this discussion on the subject, I'm wondering, does anyone here have a 15 powered 3D plane that can hover?
Or have they seen one hover? If so, can you post a pic of it hovering, and tell us the specs?

By the way, the Tigercat looks pretty cool, I wonder what it weighs, and what th demensions (& wing area) are, with the 15 in it.

Hell YES! There are .15 size 3D planes!
 

gregusan

I got video of somebody flying the Komacro 15 (with a stock OS 15 LA engine) doing everything you could imagine doing with a plane! You'd be amazed at how stable it appears in the video, too! If you didn't know the size of it you'd swear it was a very large plane the way it floats around.

Here is a picture of it, and if you send me your email address I could send you a portion of the video (I don't have them posted anywhere, so you can't download them from anywhere). I got one video broken up into 6 smaller 5 MB videos. I could send you the clip full of Torque Rolls & Hovers if that is what you want to see?

...And just in case you are interested...I got the plans to! :D

Mark

P.S. - If I could remember the address, there is a whole Japanese site full of .15 size 3D planes & smaller!

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Yes, please send me the clip with the hovers & torque rolls. Does it really look stable? I recall a clip of a Hanger9 Edge trying to harrier, hover, etc, and it looked pretty squirrly to me.

My email is: [email protected]

Do you have a plane just like the one in the video? With a 15?
How much does it wiegh?

Regarding the link to the "chinese" site, could you have meant "japanese"? If so, I'm the one who posted it in this thread, somwhere above. It's a HUGE webpage full of them, but unfortunately, we can't communicate. So I'm wondering if anyone in the US can fly 3D with a 15. would like to see it.

Who is flying on this clip, and where was it filmed? thx, g

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Here's one that i know of.

http://www23.tok2.com/home/cha2/movie/komacro02.WMV

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gregusan

The link that da king posted was the same link where I got the komacro06.WMV video from that I just sent you! (I just couldn't remember it)

If you want all 6 parts to the video, here you go:

http://www23.tok2.com/home/cha2/movie/komacro01.WMV
http://www23.tok2.com/home/cha2/movie/komacro02.WMV
http://www23.tok2.com/home/cha2/movie/komacro03.WMV
http://www23.tok2.com/home/cha2/movie/komacro04.WMV
http://www23.tok2.com/home/cha2/movie/komacro05.WMV
http://www23.tok2.com/home/cha2/movie/komacro06.WMV

They still should be all there...then sit back and be AMAZED!


da king

Are you going to be flying in Romeo tomorrow, too? I'm suppose to meet bodymann there around 10 in the morning.

Mark

The guy flying...............
 

Is Yoichiro Ono, his nickname is Mr. Torqueroller. I go to his shop every now and then just south of downtown Tokyo. He is a pretty neet guy, more into the business side of the house. Quite the salesman, he is using his flying talent to sell airplanes. Contact me by email if interested in one of these.

Jon

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Jon,

I'm kinda interested in a couple of the planes that I seen him fly. The Komacro 15 for one, and there was another one I seen called the Petit Air .

Can you give me a rough idea how much it would cost for one of the Komacro 15 kits, and the Petit Air (if you know about that airplane, too)?

Here is a picture of the Petit Air for those who've never seen it.

Thank You

Mark

P.S. - How often do you go to Tokyo, anyway?

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I've covered the fuz on the mini magic and weighed it with the wing uncovered and all the radio installed and its creeping up now to 700g (about 1lb 8oz

Does a .15 size 3D plane exist?
 

deryckere
Do you have the plan in a CAD format or just the PDF from the site? if you have a DXF or DWG file I would love a copy please.

Does a .15 size 3D plane exist?
 

deryckere....Sorry i have to work.

Did you see my video yet?

Click on the www on the bottom and look for omp540 video.

Does a .15 size 3D plane exist?
 

I WISH I had the plan in DXF or DWG format! But all I got is the PDF file from the site. It looks like a real good plan...it's just going to be a real pain piecing all 35 sheets together. I also found out that the pages don't go together line for line. They slightly overlap. So this is going to make it even more time consuming to put together.

I don't know much about Adobe. But I'm looking into if there was a feature in it that took the whole plan and split it up into that 35 smaller sheets...maybe there is a feature that can piece it all back together into one complete drawing?

I'll keep you informed on what I find out...unless somebody out there is real proficient with Adobe, and knows if this is, or isn't possible?

Mark

Oh... da king... I downloaded your video yesterday and had a look. VERY impressive! Maybe it's a good thing you have to work today. I don't think I'd feel like flying after watching you fly! :eek:

Just kidding...looking forward to seeing you fly sometime. I'll be busy this weekend. But bodymann said you guys are out at the field almost every Saturday & Sunday. I'm bound to run into you sooner or later!

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Oh well worth a try. The Pdf does piece together OK and you do not have to do it as one big sheet but only the parts that you need, like the wing or tail or fin. The only problem is that it is drawn to be used with the laser cut parts so no formers are shown. and as I am from the UK I doubt the parts would be cost efective to bring over.

I think that I will draw up my own CAD Plan and get a set of parts CNC cut here in the UK :(

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Steve

I don't know why everybody keeps saying that the formers aren't shown, and that you couldn't build from the plans as they are drawn up!

Look over to the right side of the plan...There is a picture of EVERY sheet of wood with the parts shown on them! They aren't shown at a 1:1 scale. But I'm sure anybody that would try to build one of these models knows how to increase the scale of something until it is 1:1. You could even cut out these pictures (once blown up to full scale) and use them as a template to cut out ALL the parts exactly as they are laid out on the original Laser cut sheets! I, myself, wouldn't get into all the little laser cut gussets shown all over the plan...that would drive me insane. I think I'll just add appropriate gusseting after putting all the pieces together. As for the building portion...After you got all the formers cut out you don't need a plan view to put the plane together, just a centerline to line things up. If you go to their web site (somebody posted it earlier in the thread) there is even 4 or 5 pages of construction pictures to go along with the assembly.

I didn't say it was going to be easy! But no more difficult than most scratch building projects.

*Just my 2 Cents :p

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Yes I agree with you that it is not a problem to build from the PDF it is that I like to run out my parts on self adhesive paper or if a few of my friends want parts we can get them CNC'd.

Have you built one yourself yet if so how did it go? and what gear and engine are you using

I have a MDS 17 engine - 4 GWS Naro HP Servos 9g - 1 Pico Servo 6g - GWS 6ch RX 9g - 4.8v 300ma Nimh 26g
For covering I am thinking of using prismatic mylar Wrapping paper if that does not work it will be a combination of Litespan and Profilm lite

Does a .15 size 3D plane exist?
 

Steve

No...I haven't started building one yet. I haven't even pieced together my plan yet. All 35 pages are still sitting on my desk right next to me. :( I plan on making one full plan, and then doing a screen dump of all templates on the plan, and importing these pictures into CAD. From there it should just be a simple matter of scaling them to size. If you want, whenever I get all the templates set up in CAD, I can send them your way?

I'm in the middle of building 3 other planes right now, but would like to build it someday. I just build REAL SLOOooow. It takes me months sometimes just to build an ARF. :p

I noticed that you said you were thinking about drawing up your own CAD plan...were you thinking of trying to draw up the Komacro, or your own design? In either case I'd sure like to see them when you are finished! :D

It sounds like you have all the gear figured out already! Now you just need something to put them in. :confused:

I'm still looking for possible solution to convert, or transfer the pdf plans into another format, and I'll keep you informed if I find out anything...I'm not giving up just yet!

I'll also post how the assembly goes when, and if, I ever start building one. But like I said, the way I build, this could be awhile.

Keep us informed on what you end up doing. I'd like to hear about it.

Mark

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I never did get to see the Creek Hobbies plane fly but the report from the field was good. Tail touches on first flight. I think it had the OS .15CV.

I am getting impatient waiting for the Creek plane so I'm putting an old OS .15FP on my Crazy Max electric. Not an great 3D plane but it should hover, hopefully. The AUW should be 17-18 oz with fuel.

Looks like there is a market for a good .15 size 3D ARF. Where are you Great Planes?

Does a .15 size 3D plane exist?
 

Still no pictures of the Creek Hobbies plane anywhere either, huh?

I'm trying not to get to excited until I see it, though. After all, I've seen allot of homely designs before in the the 3D market. :disappoin

Oh...You better make sure that the engine doesn't sit still, and the plane spin around it, with that Crazy Max! That's one small and light plane, isn't it? I can't wait to hear about this one! :eek:

Mark

To Mark
 

I go through Tokyo about 3-4 times a year. I also travel to other areas of Japan and spend my off time looking for the RC hobby shops. His store's url is www.rchobby.jp. Petit Air is 16,800 yen (ARF), Komacro 15 is 7,900 (kit) and Komafun is 4,900 (kit). The prices are listed in yen and just convert over to what it would be in US dollars. The balsa is metric thickness in the kits. The price of shipping would be from my address to yours. I might be there in 2 weeks for 1 day, but will definitely be there for a whole week in July, however I will also be going to Singapore so who knows how much stuff I can buy at one time. My last trip will be in the fall due to me retiring from the USMC. I have in the past bought items for clubmembers. One of these small planes interest me also and I might be persuaded to get a couple. I will be bringing back one of the F-Air Ultimates and the Deca Gee Bee (if available).


Jon

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WOW! :eek:

That's incredible!

I haven't converted any of the dollar amounts yet, and I still have to see if buying a new plane fits into my budget (I'm unemployed right now). But I'll definitely let you know if I'm interested!

I live in Michigan...But shipping from where you are, sure has got to be better & cheaper than from Tokyo!

Thanks for the info & your willingness to do this, if I decide that I can afford one!

Mark

P.S. - I would have said "or 2", but it sounds like you are already starting to be concerned about how much you'll be buying while there. :D

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Jon

I still have to think about whether I'll be able to purchase one of those planes. But to tell you the truth, I don't have allot of money right now. So I may just end up trying to build one from scratch. I got a bunch of wood at home, and this size plane doesn't look like it takes much of it.

Even if I won't be able to buy one from you, I REALLY appreciate you offering to pick one up for me. Not many people would do that for somebody that they don't even know.

Thank You!



Steve

I now got a FULL plan of the Komacro 15 (it's not split up into 35 pages like the last one I had)...and I'm downloading a converter that is suppose to convert pdf files into dxf files! Oh...I even got a FULL size color Komacro 15 graphics sheet, that you can print on sticker paper and use for graphics on your finished plane!

I'll let you know how I make out...

Mark :p

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Firercat

wingspan 860mm (33.85 in)
wing area 22.3dm2 (345,6sq in) ?
weight e-powered 900g (1.98 lb)
.15 powered 714g (1.57 lb)


Lada

Fun 15
 

Total blast. Had an OS20FP laying around, so I built this. Hovers at 1/3 throttle and pulls out with authority. Havin a ball just seein what this things capable of.

Mike

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Now all the small planes are starting to crawl out of the woodwork!

Keep it up...this is very inspirational!

I knew there had to be more small planes out there than we were led to believe.

...They were just keeping them all to themselves! :p

But I still don't have one... :cry:

Mark

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Mark......When you get that file transferd to dxf. i would like a copy if possible. Thanks
Dennis