Their great planes, I'll say that right now. Its really stable and good to learn on. I have one, and its my first plane and I'm really pleased with it. The simulator is a good tool to get started on but nothing beats the expirence of having her in the air. With all of the trainer functions attatched, she'll glide for hours and never stall due to low speed. Pretty forgiving and pretty tough plane. She can take quite a hit. She's a great first plane in my opinion.