Good shipping price, 5 motors ( 40 - 50 grams each, 225 grams total) 4 escs, ( 10 grams each, 40 grams) and your motor shafts so say a total weight of 300 grams, airmail minimum is $7.50 out of honk kong, so basically paying $8 for handling of 13 items? I'd say that's really good. Later one when I'm ready for more motors, I'm going to get some more from there. I'm kind of interested in the one that's listed below the 2825-032. it's the[link=http://www.aarchobby.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=103_88&prod ucts_id=713] 2215/25 direct drive[/link] oh heck, i'll just put a Lin up. I'm thinking that's about the same size as the motor max 400 motors. I like the prop test stats on it, 11 x 4.7 prop, 16 amps, 3 cell batt, 2.31 LBS!!! thrust. Now that's some power.