Cisco, not sure what you mean about upsetting people but it doesnt really matter, if you fly at the field that IS participating even if no one else is around when you do...we have 100 members and guess how many show up for the monthly meeting? normally about 8-10 regulars...My quick story is about a year and a half ago I watched a newbie struggle with his trainer wings wobbling the whole flight ,but he did have control of it..I work at night so flying time is rare ie its either sleep or fly for the most part until it warms up here...well to sum it up he can fly circles around me now and we are good friends...join up, find out who the last one was to join and go meet another newbie..nobody likes handing out their hard earned money, well unless its for planes and engines and etc..etc..look at as paying to get your car inspected, in order to play on the pavement you gotta pay the $30 for the inspection and have insurance,,same thing here, you need insurance (AMA) and a place to play (club field)...Rog