Hossfly: Good Point ,I dont have an answer for that. I know the ImAA wants to increase their membership, but is that the way to do it? It's a on going problem. I attended a all scale event this Fall and most were giant scale planes , but there were a lot of very small 25/40 size planes and were ARF's . It was a fun day and I got to fly all I wanted to, some only wanted to fly one time to qualify for an award right before the judging but thats another issue. ( I attended: dont you just loath that, our AMA disc V VP uses that all the time )