someone coming out like this 19 out of 20 times is a none ama member and or none club member. Our club rule don't allow this person to fly even if they've been fly for years. If the guy has AMA we have no problem with letting him fly. but if he's never never flow before well insist on testing it for him but if he really feels he want to try we all get on the ground and he can have at it. been done 4 times with the same results. guy goes home with a busted model and we never see em again. kinda sad really. I'm a jerk for saying it but reallity is harsh sometimes