I really have no problems at all to speak of with the .70 4 stroke, I take off at full throttle 99.9% of the time, I go from an idle at the runway to full power and she rolls about 1 foot and then straight into orbit, [X(] its very impressive to see, but I think the motor may be a little heavy for her as I have to fight into the hover, but everything else rocks!!!!

This is also my first 3D plane, so to learn how to hover has been quite a challenge, but it is coming more easily now, a friend of mine let me fly his foamy the other day, and to go into a hover with that was like putting syrup on your pancakes, I didn't even have to think about it, it just went there, I called him a cheater & said try that stuff with this plane, he wouldn't take the challenge though, I feel a little better now about learning it all on the twist, as I feel like I am actually controling every single little move, so I have no problem with the Challenge, as its only helping me become a better pilot.

And I don't think my budget is going to allow for a $280.00 Kit Jack, [] The reason I buy kits is not only for the fun of completely building them, but the cost is way more reasonable, I'd actually like a Cardinal Edge Like Blaine Austin flys (1/4 to 1/2 scale or larger) but I can't even think about spending $8,000.00 for that Kit. not without getting stabbed by my wife anyway, and she is pretty easy going when it comes to me spending in this Hobby. But that might be pushin it a little to far. So I am trying to get a friend of mine to help me build a life size Twist, I wonder if I could handle all the G's that I put it through,, Most likely not.. [&o]