I am always ready to learn. I have only been in 3D for a little over 3 years. I only stated it does MOST 3D move easy for me and I got "If we compare anything with the pizazz whatever you put up against it is sure to win. The pizazz sucks. Its like taking a Toyota Echo to race in NASCAR event." I simply asked after that what was the trouble. I am president at one club and a board member and Vice at another club. We have lots on newcomers to the hobby. I think we have somewhere around 15 in the two clubs that have less than a year in the hobby. I tell them all to check out RCUniverse. What if they post I sure like my alph trainer and they get It is the worst plane ever and it sucks. I feel my replys where just. southern_touch9 , I take no insults from your post and I am sure you are a super pilot and have lots of knowledge about the 3D sport. with that all happy flying.