I like hl's price and besides they shoot, how cool is that!!! Most of us don't have the money or the time to build show class tanks. Well at least I don't. I just want something to have fun with and I think the majority of us here feel the same way. Tamiya's tanks are incredible but I'd be scared to take it through mud, snow, rain or any of the elements. Besides did I mention Hl's shoot. If tamiya's were cheaper hell ya I'd buy one over a Hl, but as for now I'll beat up my cheapo's and have fun.