Check out http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3640864/tm.htm. Mike Hester's Black Magic looks very appealing. If I didn't have so many other planes & projects already, I would be doing one or two of these by now. He makes a short kit available. Another source is Aeroworks http://www.aero-works.net/store/sear...?CategoryID=16. Check out the CA Models Genesis, Fantasy, Epsilon, Exlipse.