In Germany, in the past when Tamiya first came out with tanks, GRAUPNER came out the same time with some 1/16 scale tanks. Can't remember which one........anyway, back then they were......well, like the HL's. After I think it was 2 years they killed the line of tanks. Every once in a while, you will find one in the german ebay. www.ebay.de
http://cgi.ebay.de/Graupner-RC-Kampf...QQcmdZViewItem apparently they started making them again. and what pray tell is this http://cgi.ebay.de/Ferngesteuerte-Pa...QQcmdZViewItem it says its from HL.