Well, as advertised the Long Eze was flown today (Friday), twice. First of all, I followed your suggestion on elevator throw and balance, both good. I chose to ignore your aileron throws, and used 5/8" up and down...WRONG..WRONG ..WRONG... way to much, 3/8 is much better, and as far as expo, that is next after I get used to that function, which I will try out on my Kaos. Flew off a 600'by 60' grass runway with a slight right to left cross wind and I'm glad I had 600' 'cause I started the roll about 200 ft' from one end and just got airborne at the other, that is about 375' to 400'. The first take off wasn't bad, did as you said, didn't rush it and made a shallow climb out, but..... with those ailerons at those throws the plane was all over the sky, glad I had a more eexperienced pilot there for back up. It didn't take long to get into trouble, couldn't see it, and was over controling the whole flight. The second flight was with ailerons at 3/8' throws and it was a little more stable, but still a hand full. The take off was a little dicey, as my pilot tried to pull the nose up a little early, and at about 6' up the nose dropped, not a stall, but just dipped, thankfully he was quick on the throttle and elevator and he got it back to a gentle climb rate. Landings were a new experience, as the plane seems not to like being close to the ground, it was pretty dancy and as you again said, takes a little power and does take a while to stop trying to fly again.... Very interesting plane, but I think I'll dig out my trainer and calm my nerves for awhile before I try to fly it again. Cliff