RE: AV8R setup
The plane flys good, but I disagree with it being forgiving.
It will bite you in a heart beat and spin in if it gets too slow.
If you bounce the landing it will want to cartwheel as well. It never seems consistant. I could setup the same way every time and have different results.
Landing this plane is not the easiest thing in the world. At the time I bought mine it was really the only plane out there calling itself a true trainer. Now that I have flown other "trainers" I would say there are better choices out there.