I bought a few of the Turmoils. So far I find it flies as easy as I would expect, i can hover it nose up and nose down very easy. I did burn up the motor and speed control in 4 flights. Sent it back and they refunded it. I ordered an AXI to replace it and hear they are way better motors. I can't wait to get it back in the air. Nose down hovers are a kick in the tail.