Okay folks - this thread has gone sufficiently off topic in short order that I see no point in allowing it to continue.

JohnG - if you want your latest question answered, go ahead and start a new thread with that question ... and lets not have anyone thinking that's a good place to continue all the backstabbing...

In closing, let me just say that I too have had both good and bad experiences with RAM, I too have a bunch of totally unsubstantiated theories about what may or may not have helped contribute to their downfall, and I too would discuss them here if I thought we could have a good logical discussion without all of the *****ing, backstabbing etc... but it seems there is too much passion & frustration out there for us to currently be able to conduct such a discussion without resorting to the kind of personal attacks etc that are being thrown around here - and so this thread will now be closed to allow some of you to cool off a bit.

I hope that those of you who have made accusations against others here are proud of what you have said... I know some of the people who have been vilified here, and each one of them is a good guy. Let's try not be in such a hurry to demonize each other over stuff like this in future.

Regards,
Gordon

Thanks Gordon for stepping in and closing this thread. I was hoping that another moderator would close it sooner than later. BTW, I 100% agree with your assessment of the situation.

......ghost rider.......out...