I must chime in ... could you folks beat the hell out of this dead horse a bit more? For goodness sake, it's like any life experience - relative to your interests, time, space, etc ... I fly ARFs due to my limited time and lack of building desire. I also drive cars, but I don't build them, I also live in a home, but I didn't build it! I don't give a rat's behind what the next guy flies, I like 'em all. Get over it, and someone please tell me, is there any additional ARFs that resemble the Javelin II lines? Thanks!