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Old 08-21-2006 | 11:39 AM
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Default RE: Slowing pattern plane


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jquid If I can keep the engine running I'll give that a shot lol and point of note, it an't no stinking B(ARF) it's a kit

I considered a larger plane but currently I don't have a means to transport one where the chances of damage are minimal. Most damage to my planes happens in transport. Plus I lack the necessary $$$$ to buy one and all the pieces to go with it.

I also considered spoilerons but I want to slow the plane down not kill its lift. I think, I might be better off programming flaperons with elevator mixed in but I will be trying the method jquid mentioned before I do that. The plane is nose heavy, balanced at the reconmended place on the plans. It has a respectable decent but its forward momentum is to much to do a proper landing.

Hey,

Sorry bout the ARF, not sure what plane I was thinking of. Anyhows. Spoilers will decrease lift, as they spoil the air movement over the wing, and will reduce your lift. I learned on sailplanes, and a Sagitta 600. When landing you deploy the spoilers to essentially stop your aircraft and spot land. Spoilers on a pattern I would argue are the opposite of what you want. As you slow down your 5 lb aircraft, it is not flying fast enough to maintain the lift needed to keep it flying. Since you are using an 11x4 prop, idle will do the same thing, not enough forward movement of the plane (4" with this prop), to sustain lift. Spoilers will drop it out of the sky.

Flaps increase the lift at a higher AOA, allowing you to fly slower, yet keep the wing flying, and not stalling. I would recommend flaperons, and increase your prop pitch and reduce diameter. Maybe go 10x6 or 10x7. You will also need to program in some up elevator, as the plane will want to nose over. I have this setup on a Tower Uproar 40, and I can fly it so slow it can almost hover in a mild headwind. Try the setup a few mistakes high, as the correct ratio of flaps to elevator mix will vary the flight characteristics of what you are looking for.

So when landing, cut back to like 1/3 throttle on your downwind leg, deploy flaps after a bit as your airspeed decreases. Bring your nose up a bit to prepare for landing. If you had a taildrager setup, it would be about the same angle as it is sitting on the ground. Now you should be flying at the correct AOA and slower. Now reduce the throttle to bring her down on a "3 Point" landing.


Happy landings, and let us know what you do.