Let me add my two-cents worth. I agree with the aformentioned opinions expressed. I started in pattern in the mid seventies. In Texas where I lived at the time, going to contests required much long distance traveling. It seemed that there were less competitors at most of these events. I recently flew in the SPA event in Chattanooga (28 fliers) and had a ball. Though I didn't fly that well, the fellowship was well worth the trip. I would recommend that those hardy folks that want to continue the old style of pattern flying join the SPA. You won't be dissapointed. Stop complaining about the four-strokes and join the fray. Yes planes are hard to find. I have now started scratch building from old plans. It's a great feeling to build your own plane and have it perform well. It gives me a sense of pride and accomplishment. The engine problems regarding c/g with the heavier 4-strokes can be solved during the scratch building process by lengthening the rear fuse a little, or adding a few squares of weight under the tail. The planes perform really well and the noise isn't so onerous. I have noticed lately that some younger fliers are attending our events and doing really well. It's nice to know the baton will be handed to another generation of "Old time" pattern flying and the SPA will continue to exist in the distant future.