Ok. Do you guys know of any other pull-pull that is not as heavy as the Dubro is? I have used the Dubro earlier on my Extra 300 .60 and it worked great. However I have always thought that the bult boing thru the rudder is a heavy piece being made from steel. Also Im now in the start up for building a 1/4 scale Extra and would like it to as light weight as possible.