You keep referring to a beginner RTF. If that is to imply that you haven't really learned to fly yet, I would work on that first. In order to go for some kind of crazy altitude, you must first learn to fly!! It is hard enough at a reasonable altitude of 3 mistakes high, much less way up there where your plane becomes 2 dots like darock is referring to. He's been around a long time & I'm sure if you ask him, he'll tell ya he didn't learn to fly at 5000 ft!