how many 3D planes in the 1.20-1.80 size can you find? i'm just saying the kits out now have been out for awhile and are not as capeble as some of the arfs out now. now if your looking for scale thats the only way to go if you ask me but you wont see me flying scale planes. i have no problem with people buliding kits i just dont have time to bulid i wish you could get some of the arfs out now in arc i like to cover.