I was thinking the same thing with respect to facts not being clear, I fully expected that thread would have been shut down when I logged on today. Bob, do you have any experience or knowledge about Avaition Model products? Specifically I'm interested in the Edge/Yak Profile, I have no experience with profiles and am wondering if I'd be getting in over my head. A.M's has a good reputation, which you know in our previous conversation means alot to me, HA, HA, HA. Don't want to say anymore elst I'll get reprimanded.