BDavison, thanks for the tip, but I have already done that, using dental floss and Ca. Now I'm just waiting to find the next weak area. All in all the Reflection has held up better than the Turmoil. The Turmoil has a habit of breaking the horizotal fusalage plate right behind the wing on a rough landing, I've had to repair that a couple of times. Usually if you hit hard with the Reflection you just pop an aileron off. Then again, we haven't put the Reflection straight in hard, will have to wait to see what happens then.