[quote]ORIGINAL: vellum2

Retracts are what make pattern planes really cool anyway, right? The idea of keeping it "Cheap & Simple" doesn't seem to stand up when you are allowing high torque 4 strokes that turn the bigger props anyway. If folks are out to slow them down, then just go ahead and fly all the current turn around sequences. SPA is supposed to be the "Glory Days". What top pilots were flying 4 strokes at the 75 World Champs?

I mean really, should anyone be allowed a "10" take off without a sweet looking tricycle landing gear folding up ever so slowly into the belly of an old slick pattern ship? It's like watching a 747 lift off!

Joe W.

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